How could anything go wrong.

[Collector1337]

Yeah... they look so scary with their orange tipped airsoft guns.

The total absence of gunfire would definitely cause you to draw and shoot back.

[mistermack]

Yeah... they look so scary with their orange tipped airsoft guns.

The total absence of gunfire would definitely cause you to draw and shoot back.

What you are ignoring is the fact that people with real guns are of particularly low intelligence. Especially when the chance comes up to actually use it. In a split second, they believe they are Clint Eastwood come to clean up the town.

Wankers.

[rainbow]

The only solution is to ensure the actors are carrying live weapons, so that when the fully armed public in the cinema start shooting at them, they can defend themselves.

I think I got the logic right...

[Collector1337]

Yeah... they look so scary with their orange tipped airsoft guns.

The total absence of gunfire would definitely cause you to draw and shoot back.

What you are ignoring is the fact that people with real guns are of particularly low intelligence. Especially when the chance comes up to actually use it. In a split second, they believe they are Clint Eastwood come to clean up the town.

Wankers.

That's clearly an outright lie, stereotyping, and total bigotry. Why don't you just call gun owners the N word while your at it?

[PsychoSerenity]

Why don't you just call gun owners the N word while your at it?

All gun owners are nincompoops!

[Robert_S]

Yeah... they look so scary with their orange tipped airsoft guns.

The total absence of gunfire would definitely cause you to draw and shoot back.

What you are ignoring is the fact that people with real guns are of particularly low intelligence. Especially when the chance comes up to actually use it. In a split second, they believe they are Clint Eastwood come to clean up the town.

Wankers.

That's clearly an outright lie, stereotyping, and total bigotry. Why don't you just call gun owners the N word while your at it?

I can't remember if it's him or the other mister-something who'd rather live next to a nonce.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Can we move this to the gun club now?

[pErvinalia]

Seth or Gallstones haven't commented in it yet. Therefore, no.

[Seth]

http://www.abc17news.com/news/movie-the ... index.html

Some movie theatre boss though it would be a good and exciting idea to have a bunch of armed hoodlums raid a screening of Iron Man 3 as a publicity stunt. The audience were not in on the joke.

Sorry for being late to the conversation, I've been a bit busy.

Ahem.

The actor is damned lucky I (or someone armed like me...including an off-duty police officer) wasn't in the audience because I'd very likely have shot him dead on the spot, without asking any questions. And I'd have been fully justified in doing so, being in perfectly reasonable fear of another Aurora shooting.

This was quite literally felony stupid. Both the actor and the theater manager should face felony menacing and conspiracy charges, as a lesson to any other idiot who might think this would be a funny thing to do.

EDIT
I'm going to update this a bit since seeing the photos. The story I heard was that it was a single person dressed in "full combat gear," not a cast of characters in toy gear. It's one thing for an Iron Man character to be on stage with a bunch of fake cops, and another to send out a single person dressed in black with what looks like a real weapon, orange tip notwithstanding.

So, if they all appeared at once, I would definitely hold my fire. But one person dressed in combat gear stepping out in front of the screen? No question in my mind that it would justify the immediate use of lethal force on the reasonable presumption that it's a repeat of the Aurora event.

And Collector, I'm not going to wait for someone to start shooting in that particular circumstance. To do so is to allow people to die based on a hesitation to act in circumstances that have every appearance of being a time-critical shoot/don't shoot scenario.

To hesitate is to die in a gunfight.

But, that being said, depending on the precise circumstances, and precisely what I could see when the guy walked out, I might take one of a couple of different courses, the first being to draw and aim but check fire until I'm certain the threat is legitimate, the second being to draw and aim and shout "Police, drop the gun or I'll shoot", and the third being to open fire without any warning.

It's hard to tell exactly what anyone would do based on scanty evidence. That's why cops go through video and real-life shoot-dont shoot training.

The key here is that IF that HAD been a real shooter, dozens of people would have died...again...because evidently there wasn't anyone in the audience with a legally-carried handgun with which to take action.

And given the choice of evils, between allowing a real shooter to open fire and kill audience members in a packed movie theater and shooting an actor who appeared to be an Aurora copycat, I'd take the latter and defend doing so on the principle that he's too stupid to live anyway.

But it would all depend on the precise circumstances.

[Seth]

Yeah... they look so scary with their orange tipped airsoft guns.

The total absence of gunfire would definitely cause you to draw and shoot back.

Er, How likely is it that anyone saw the orange tips IN A DARKENED THEATER? Besides, if I wanted to fool someone a little orange paint on the flash hider of my Sig 556 would give me a substantial advantage till the shooting started.

It is, in most states, a crime to use a fake but real looking weapon to frighten others, and it's also well established by the courts that someone who shoots a person armed with an apparently real gun out of fear for their life has done so lawfully.

[pErvinalia]

Fuck, I'm not even a gun nut, but if I had a gun and was in there, I'd shoot the fuckers too!

[Seth]

Fuck, I'm not even a gun nut, but if I had a gun and was in there, I'd shoot the fuckers too!

That's the problem. Not enough people understand the time-critical nature of such events. If it had been a real shooter, in the three minutes minimum it takes the cops to get there dozens can be killed and injured.

I keep saying it over and over. In this kind of shooting you have at best a few seconds to engage the shooter before people die. The police can't and won't be there to protect you except in the most unusual of circumstances.

And that's why I carry a gun.

[MrJonno]

But once Seth started shooting people might think Seth was the loony (hard to believe) and start using their constitution right to take him down. Seth being the real Iron Man would be fine but bullets might miss and hit and take out more civilians. Seth would then need to kill the civilians doing the shooting for the greater good. The police would then turn up and try to take down Seth failing yet again , a few dead police and we got a full riot

[cronus]

Surely if they all appeared at once the worry would be it was a steaming event and that a mass robbery of the audience was about to occur. Shouldn't Seth, or someone like him, at least test the situation by shooting at the ceiling in the hope the potential robbers would panic and flee? Seems the more gunmen there are the more likely rational motives would be in play that would lead to a safer more predictable strategy for someone with a defensive weapon in the audience?

[MrJonno]

Surely if they all appeared at once the worry would be it was a steaming event and that a mass robbery of the audience was about to occur. Shouldn't Seth, or someone like him, at least test the situation by shooting at the ceiling in the hope the potential robbers would panic and flee? Seems the more gunmen there are the more likely rational motives would be in play that would lead to a safer more predictable strategy for someone with a defensive weapon in the audience?

Shooting the ceiling would be initiating force against someone's cinema which had not harmed them or was likely to