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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:09 pm

We need to ask the Atheism+ers. They would probably see no disconnect between championing her right to wear the shirt, while ensuring that no boys wear a similar shirt, unless, of course it were the gay teens who wore "I enjoy penis" shirts. That would be o.k.

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Post by rasetsu » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:18 pm




Pfffffft... Yeah. Fuck right. Wouldn't want our teenagers "losing attention." What planet are you from?



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Re: I enjoy vagina

Post by klr » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:21 pm

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Brianna Demato, a 15-year-old student at Newton High School in Queens, N.Y. was sent home Tuesday because school officials deemed her "I Enjoy Vagina" T-shirt too distracting.

The bisexual teen says the school violated her rights to free speech, and her mother is standing behind her.

"It's hypocritical," Brianna told the New York Daily News. "They use the word in class -- why can't I, on a shirt?"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/0 ... Ys8I%22%7D

Well, I tell ya, there is nothing dirty about the word vagina, but I file this under the "be careful what you wish for," label. If she's allowed to wear that shirt, then boys can wear it too. And, what would stop someone from wearing "suck on penises" or "have sex with anuses" in school.

I'm pro free speech, nearly absolutely so, but a school has to be able to set a dress code. Maybe the only way to do it is to say "no writing at all on shirts" and such. That would be content neutral.

I don't get the parent here, though. FFS -- you're "standing behind" your daughter wearing an "I enjoy Vagina" t-shirt? Take the t-shirt away and tell her to concentrate on her school work. She's 15. That's a little young to be enjoying all sorts of vagina all over the place, isn't it?
I'm surprised Coca-Cola haven't sued over the similarity of the logo. I look at that t-shirt, and I suddenly get a thirst for Atlanta's best export :oj:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:23 pm

I think we have be mindful of the fact that Jimmy Football and Johnny Classclown will take the opportunity to wear "I support single moms" t-shirts and "eat pussy" t-shirts with a picture of a cat on it.

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Post by amused » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:52 pm

Well hell, when I saw the title of this thread in the list I was hoping it was going to be some sort of drunken gushing from CES.

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Post by Svartalf » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:15 pm

rasetsu wrote:Pfffffft... Yeah. Fuck right. Wouldn't want our teenagers "losing attention." What planet are you from?
It's an effing school, and they are distracted enough as is without adding to it, and possibly stirring more than intended. :stir:
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Post by rasetsu » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:01 pm

Svartalf wrote:
rasetsu wrote:Pfffffft... Yeah. Fuck right. Wouldn't want our teenagers "losing attention." What planet are you from?
It's an effing school, and they are distracted enough as is without adding to it, and possibly stirring more than intended.

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Post by JimC » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:32 am

Bella Fortuna wrote:Call me a downer but schools have the right to have dress codes, and rightly so. Uniforms are a great thing.
I agree, but I never notice whether the lads are wearing it properly in class, like the deputies keep on telling us to do...

I'm too busy teaching!
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Re: I enjoy vagina

Post by hadespussercats » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:19 am

klr wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Brianna Demato, a 15-year-old student at Newton High School in Queens, N.Y. was sent home Tuesday because school officials deemed her "I Enjoy Vagina" T-shirt too distracting.

The bisexual teen says the school violated her rights to free speech, and her mother is standing behind her.

"It's hypocritical," Brianna told the New York Daily News. "They use the word in class -- why can't I, on a shirt?"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/0 ... Ys8I%22%7D

Well, I tell ya, there is nothing dirty about the word vagina, but I file this under the "be careful what you wish for," label. If she's allowed to wear that shirt, then boys can wear it too. And, what would stop someone from wearing "suck on penises" or "have sex with anuses" in school.

I'm pro free speech, nearly absolutely so, but a school has to be able to set a dress code. Maybe the only way to do it is to say "no writing at all on shirts" and such. That would be content neutral.

I don't get the parent here, though. FFS -- you're "standing behind" your daughter wearing an "I enjoy Vagina" t-shirt? Take the t-shirt away and tell her to concentrate on her school work. She's 15. That's a little young to be enjoying all sorts of vagina all over the place, isn't it?
I'm surprised Coca-Cola haven't sued over the similarity of the logo. I look at that t-shirt, and I suddenly get a thirst for Atlanta's best export :oj:
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Have a Cooch and a smile! :tup:


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Post by hadespussercats » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:21 am

amused wrote:Well hell, when I saw the title of this thread in the list I was hoping it was going to be some sort of drunken gushing from CES.
No pictures, please.

I mean, pictures, please.
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Post by hadespussercats » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:24 am

Bella Fortuna wrote:Call me a downer but schools have the right to have dress codes, and rightly so. Uniforms are a great thing.
Every girl will wear the school's crest in vajazzle form. :prof:
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Post by Warren Dew » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:19 am

I'm not a big fan of encouraging sex in younger teens. It leads to things like this:
A 14-year-old Florida girl delivered a baby boy in her parents' bathroom, strangled the infant to death and hid his body in a box.

Cassidy Goodson (above) has been charged with first degree murder and aggravated child abuse in connection with the death of her newborn son, reported NY Daily News.
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Re: I enjoy vagina

Post by Svartalf » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:31 am

rasetsu wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
rasetsu wrote:Pfffffft... Yeah. Fuck right. Wouldn't want our teenagers "losing attention." What planet are you from?
It's an effing school, and they are distracted enough as is without adding to it, and possibly stirring more than intended.

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Yeah and? At any rate, the ability of schools to restrict that kind of dress attitude has been affirmed numerous times, and not quashed on appeals or by SC
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Post by Rum » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:42 am

Schools have to have the right to establish and enforce a dress code along with all the other rules. Schools are actually institutions with rules, not free for all democratic places kids just happen to go to. You may think that is a shame but that is the way it is. If the head teacher establishes a rule that is generally accepted as reasonable then it should be enforceable. Of course that doesn't mean one can't challenge those rules that feel unreasonable and that does happen all the time. This episode would be around the issue of 'decency', whatever one might think about prevailing attitudes to the subject.

In passing I was in the supermarket a few days ago and the guy in front of me - Easter European I would say from the look of him, so he may well not have appreciated quite the impact , had a T shirt on that had in large letters on the back 'YOU DON'T HAVE TO FUCK PEOPLE OVER TO GET AHEAD IN LIFE'.

An admirable slogan, but personally I found it unpleasant and if not actually offensive, highly anaesthetic.

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Re: I enjoy vagina

Post by JimC » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:57 am

Rum wrote:Schools have to have the right to establish and enforce a dress code along with all the other rules. Schools are actually institutions with rules, not free for all democratic places kids just happen to go to. You may think that is a shame but that is the way it is. If the head teacher establishes a rule that is generally accepted as reasonable then it should be enforceable. Of course that doesn't mean one can't challenge those rules that feel unreasonable and that does happen all the time. This episode would be around the issue of 'decency', whatever one might think about prevailing attitudes to the subject.

In passing I was in the supermarket a few days ago and the guy in front of me - Easter European I would say from the look of him, so he may well not have appreciated quite the impact , had a T shirt on that had in large letters on the back 'YOU DON'T HAVE TO FUCK PEOPLE OVER TO GET AHEAD IN LIFE'.

An admirable slogan, but personally I found it unpleasant and if not actually offensive, highly anaesthetic.
But we would defend his right, as an adult, to wear it in a free society...

As for schools, I basically agree...

(I would of course make an exception for an "I love Physics" t-shirt - the Nelsonian blind eye would be turned...) :hehe:
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