Greece? What gives?

[Clinton Huxley]

Aye, Greek air force probably larger than RAF. Greece was also "encouraged" by Germany to buy 300 Leopard Tanks and by France to buy Frigates. Some EU countries have done very nicely from Greek arms deals.

[Clinton Huxley]

I look at it like this. Greece is, in effect, a "European Treasure". From her stem democracy, western philosophy, science (not to mention saving our asses from those pesky Persians).

Modern Greece has about as much in common with Plato and Aristotle as your average teabagger American has with christianity. It only about 170 years old.

Anyway it needs to be bailed out as religious nationalists in the Balkans who are also completely broke is not a good combination (see Serbia in the 90's)

Depends on how you want to slice it. Political entities tend to have shorter half-lives than cultural ones. The UK is not the same country it was in 1850 but that doesn't mean we should stick some poo through Darwin's old letter-box.

[MrJonno]

Ancient Greece lots of cool gods, high art, camp but really hard warriors compared with modern day orthodox christian Greece ? different cultures
The UK is only about 300 years old itself much go back further and I would say its culture is completely alien to what we have today

[Atheist-Lite]

Once Greece defaults and survives how long before other southern european countries follow?

[MrJonno]

Once Greece defaults and survives how long before other southern european countries follow?

General consensus is Spain , Portugal and Italy are now on the mend, Greece is pretty much the only one in serious trouble now

[Atheist-Lite]

Some of these eastern european countries are having general strikes and things in the past few months...do they count as european, they're not on the news radar?

[Clinton Huxley]

Some of these eastern european countries are having general strikes and things in the past few months...do they count as european, they're not on the news radar?

Depends on whether they use the EuroMark or not....

[Coito ergo sum]

Some of these eastern european countries are having general strikes and things in the past few months...do they count as european, they're not on the news radar?

They count if Germany, the UK or France stand to lose a lot of money by their failure.

[Jesus_of_Nazareth]

Beware the Ides of March (next month).


(and yes I do know!)

[Coito ergo sum]

Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee.

[Atheist-Lite]

Should I cry like a baby, or die like a man
While all the planets and wars start joining hands,
Oh what a heaven--what a hell!!
Y'know there's nothing can be done in the whole wide world.
The The, Sweet Bird of Truth.

[Coito ergo sum]

Greece is the word.

[Clinton Huxley]

There but for the Greece of god...

[Atheist-Lite]

Don't slip on the greece here...

[Coito ergo sum]

Amazing Greece, how sweet the sound
That saved a wrecked, country!