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Re: US Has No Ability to Pay Back Debt

Post by Atheist-Lite » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:17 pm

Seth wrote:
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Crumple wrote:My other machiine runs LINUX. Don't need crummy windows no more. Just 'cos merica 'vented interweb don't mean it got the copyright on the babbage engine. :hehe:
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Post by MiM » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:24 pm

Seth wrote: No, but we're the root of technology of the world, and that's more important than ever
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Post by Warren Dew » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:56 pm

Rum wrote:You/we could win in a month if we were truly committed to invading, occupying and colonising. ..Not to mention suppressing!
We could win, yes, if nothing else by using nukes as laklak says. Occupation is a lot tougher. You Brits used to know how to run colonies, but we never got the knack of it.

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Re: US Has No Ability to Pay Back Debt

Post by Azathoth » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:01 pm

Seth wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Crumple wrote:My other machiine runs LINUX. Don't need crummy windows no more. Just 'cos merica 'vented interweb don't mean it got the copyright on the babbage engine. :hehe:
FreeBSD. :smug:

I prefer Linux though.
Your Babbage engine run on an Intel or Intel-derived chip by any chance?
Why didn't I think of that. If that market opened up nobody else could possibly fill the niche. We are all doomed :bored:
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Re: US Has No Ability to Pay Back Debt

Post by Gawd » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:39 pm

Seth, you just don't get it. The US market is non-existent, it is all made up of debt. The Chinese will become the largest market in the world and grow once it doesn't have to keep propping up the deadbeat drunk that is America.

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Post by Robert_S » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:44 pm

Gawd wrote:Seth, you just don't get it. The US market is non-existent, it is all made up of debt. The Chinese will become the largest market in the world and grow once it doesn't have to keep propping up the deadbeat drunk that is America.
What's going to happen when China's workers get the higher wages? They'll probably buy our stuff. :smug:
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: US Has No Ability to Pay Back Debt

Post by klr » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:53 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Gawd wrote:Seth, you just don't get it. The US market is non-existent, it is all made up of debt. The Chinese will become the largest market in the world and grow once it doesn't have to keep propping up the deadbeat drunk that is America.
What's going to happen when China's workers get the higher wages? They'll probably buy our stuff. :smug:
I can see it now: "Shoddy American imports ..." ;ob;
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Post by Gawd » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:53 pm

No need, the Chinese workers already make all your stuff.

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Post by Gawd » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:55 pm

klr wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Gawd wrote:Seth, you just don't get it. The US market is non-existent, it is all made up of debt. The Chinese will become the largest market in the world and grow once it doesn't have to keep propping up the deadbeat drunk that is America.
What's going to happen when China's workers get the higher wages? They'll probably buy our stuff. :smug:
I can see it now: "Shoddy American imports ..." ;ob;
American made stuff already have the reputation of being low quality because American workers don't work as hard as the Chinese ones.

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Post by Robert_S » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:16 pm

Gawd wrote:
klr wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Gawd wrote:Seth, you just don't get it. The US market is non-existent, it is all made up of debt. The Chinese will become the largest market in the world and grow once it doesn't have to keep propping up the deadbeat drunk that is America.
What's going to happen when China's workers get the higher wages? They'll probably buy our stuff. :smug:
I can see it now: "Shoddy American imports ..." ;ob;
American made stuff already have the reputation of being low quality because American workers don't work as hard as the Chinese ones.
Do you see a lot of Chinese cars? My last Honda was made in the USA.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: US Has No Ability to Pay Back Debt

Post by Tero » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:18 pm

If money were real, it would be a problem.

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Post by Azathoth » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:34 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Gawd wrote:
klr wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Gawd wrote:Seth, you just don't get it. The US market is non-existent, it is all made up of debt. The Chinese will become the largest market in the world and grow once it doesn't have to keep propping up the deadbeat drunk that is America.
What's going to happen when China's workers get the higher wages? They'll probably buy our stuff. :smug:
I can see it now: "Shoddy American imports ..." ;ob;
American made stuff already have the reputation of being low quality because American workers don't work as hard as the Chinese ones.
Do you see a lot of Chinese cars? My last Honda was made in the USA.
No, quite a lot of japanese and taiwanese ones though
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:37 pm

Azathoth wrote:No, quite a lot of japanese and taiwanese ones though
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Re: US Has No Ability to Pay Back Debt

Post by Exi5tentialist » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:41 pm

It's all very well lowering taxes, and then lowering them again, and again over a 2-decade period, but that way, at some point, the government isn't going to be able to pay its debts. We can merrily discuss theories around where America goes after reaching its relative economic zenith, and the decline of US power is jolly interesting I'm sure, but sooner or later all governments in the west are going to have to rely on tax not more debt to meet the demands on them. I know the rich aren't happy about it, having successfully cut big government already, but the equation in play is really a rather simple one: income and expenditure must, over time, balance.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:58 pm

The Republicans only care about pleasing their owners. So taxes for the rich will be held artificially low.
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