Apple Got More Dosh Than US Government

[JimC]

Our school is helping them out - all Year 7s had to buy an iPad this year...

Seriously?!?

Yep...

They seem to be doing good things with them, as far as I can tell...

Anyway, us Aussies are trying to help your beleagured economy...

[Atheist-Lite]

Our school is helping them out - all Year 7s had to buy an iPad this year...

Seriously?!?

Yep...

They seem to be doing good things with them, as far as I can tell...

Anyway, us Aussies are trying to help your beleagured economy...

A lot of countries are trying to keep the American patient alive. I think life support is going to be switched off tuesday morning. Watch for some twitches from the corpse.

[Seth]

Seths idea is just another system and will be corrupted in time.

Well, you've got to work with what's available and keep correcting it when it goes awry, that is true.

What you need is natural law - small markets where people know each other and buy, sell, demand taxes and determine prices by natural human interaction. Computer generation of stocks and shares should be abolished. It doesn't work - and it doesn't work big time as we're all about to find out.

There is a good deal of truth in this statement. Even the federal regulators recognized that in a world of micro-second computer trading, "circuit breakers" are needed to stop feedback oscillations in the system that can grow quickly to destructive proportions.

In aviation it's called a "pilot induced oscillation." This is a delay between a pilot's sensing of a departure from normal in pitch, roll or yaw (most often pitch) and his reaction and input to the controls that puts the correction in phase with the pitch change rather than out of phase with it. This causes the pitch to increase more, and the pilot again tries to add a bigger correction to reverse the change, but again it's too late because of reaction time lags, so it's in phase and increases the pitch deviation again, making it larger. This can quickly get to the point where the aircraft fails structurally as the aerodynamic forces of the increasing pitch oscillations grow huge.

Exactly the same thing happens in stock trading. In the old days, when there was a human element in the mix, fluctuations in the market were slower to amplify. With microsecond trading and automatic buy and sell orders, the system can oscillate out of control in a matter of minutes, before anyone realizes what's happening and can put a stop to it.

It's actually pretty dangerous for our economy, and it's a worldwide risk because the markets are global now.

[Seth]

Our school is helping them out - all Year 7s had to buy an iPad this year...

Seriously?!?

Yep...

They seem to be doing good things with them, as far as I can tell...

Anyway, us Aussies are trying to help your beleagured economy...

A lot of countries are trying to keep the American patient alive. I think life support is going to be switched off tuesday morning. Watch for some twitches from the corpse.

Thing is, if we go down, so does everybody else. Now, about those deck chairs...it seems they are sliding towards the bow. Please rearrange them immediately.

[Atheist-Lite]

Our school is helping them out - all Year 7s had to buy an iPad this year...

Seriously?!?

Yep...

They seem to be doing good things with them, as far as I can tell...

Anyway, us Aussies are trying to help your beleagured economy...

A lot of countries are trying to keep the American patient alive. I think life support is going to be switched off tuesday morning. Watch for some twitches from the corpse.

Thing is, if we go down, so does everybody else. Now, about those deck chairs...it seems they are sliding towards the bow. Please rearrange them immediately.

Once the dollar is decoupled from the rest of the worlds tradewinds will be chaotic for a year or so but the world will still be here. Unlike the 1930s the US isn't the productive engine for the world - and is actually a drain on the resources outside it's borders. I think it'll be only half as hard as people fear outside the US and twice as hard within.

[Seth]

Once the dollar is decoupled from the rest of the worlds tradewinds will be chaotic for a year or so but the world will still be here. Unlike the 1930s the US isn't the productive engine for the world - and is actually a drain on the resources outside it's borders. I think it'll be only half as hard as people fear outside the US and twice as hard within.

That explains the crash in the global markets now affecting Europe that resulted from the crash in the US markets how, exactly?

As Glenn Beck puts it, it's "mutually assured economic destruction." The European and American economies and markets are inextricably intertwined I'm afraid.

[Atheist-Lite]

Once the dollar is decoupled from the rest of the worlds tradewinds will be chaotic for a year or so but the world will still be here. Unlike the 1930s the US isn't the productive engine for the world - and is actually a drain on the resources outside it's borders. I think it'll be only half as hard as people fear outside the US and twice as hard within.

That explains the crash in the global markets now affecting Europe that resulted from the crash in the US markets how, exactly?

As Glenn Beck puts it, it's "mutually assured economic destruction." The European and American economies and markets are inextricably intertwined I'm afraid.

That's yesterdays money - their already working on a new global reserve currency, and I'm sure europe will be fine with it being so close to the massive gas and oil reserves of Russia and the Middle East. China needs markets and is already bailing Europe out with half a trillion, even before the day of doom, so a entire new growth circuit is already taking shape with the BRIC & other small hubs. Metastasis of the global economic paradigm. The dollar ain't gonna be necessary now. The heavy lift vehicle is beyond the atmosphere and jettisoning the drag weight.

[Seth]

Once the dollar is decoupled from the rest of the worlds tradewinds will be chaotic for a year or so but the world will still be here. Unlike the 1930s the US isn't the productive engine for the world - and is actually a drain on the resources outside it's borders. I think it'll be only half as hard as people fear outside the US and twice as hard within.

That explains the crash in the global markets now affecting Europe that resulted from the crash in the US markets how, exactly?

As Glenn Beck puts it, it's "mutually assured economic destruction." The European and American economies and markets are inextricably intertwined I'm afraid.

That's yesterdays money - their already working on a new global reserve currency,

Yeah, the Chinese Yuan. Best of luck with that.

and I'm sure europe will be fine with it being so close to the massive gas and oil reserves of Russia and the Middle East.

Until Russia and China go to all-out war over those reserves, which China has been gearing up for using US money for the last two decades or so. Among other huge military advances, they have massively increased their fleet of nuclear subs, and will be launching their first aircraft carrier quite soon, as well as deploying ship-killer missiles that can be fired from 1000 miles away at US carrier groups. If you think you're going to get unfettered access to the mineral wealth of Siberia or the Middle East, you're delusional.

China needs markets and is already bailing Europe out with half a trillion, even before the day of doom, so a entire new growth circuit is already taking shape with the BRIC & other small hubs.

And you think China bailing out Europe is a GOOD thing? Are you fucking insane? They are hard-core militant Communists who have global Chinese imperialist intentions and the fucking money, manpower and military might to make it happen. The only thing holding them in check, for the moment, is the United States and our economic and military positioning. We are still the only non-communist global thermonuclear superpower on the planet, and China is just waiting for the US to show weakness so it can invade the 'stans and Siberia and seize all that mineral wealth from an impotent Russian army. When that economic leash is slipped, and China can afford to dump the US as its major market, you're all well and truly fucked.

Metastasis of the global economic paradigm. The dollar ain't gonna be necessary now. The heavy lift vehicle is beyond the atmosphere and jettisoning the drag weight.

Don't say I didn't warn you when the Chinese Red Army comes marching into your neighborhood and puts you under the control of the Central Committee in Bejing. And this fucking time I say America DOES NOT bail your asses out and lets you stew in your own juices instead. Then we'll see how you REALLY like the socialist end-game.

[Atheist-Lite]

That's ideological paranoia, the world ain't been b/w like that for over a quarter of century. Things moved on - no point fighting yesterdays battles.

[Seth]

That's ideological paranoia, the world ain't been b/w like that for over a quarter of century. Things moved on - no point fighting yesterdays battles.

It's been like that since the Chinese Cultural Revolution, and nothing's changed in the Chinese Communist government's quest for world domination except the perceptions of those outside China.

China has used capitalism to improve its economic and military position in the world, but it's not left it's communist ideals and plans behind. They are still there, lurking in the background. The Chinese are masters at the long view of things, and they are duplicitous, mendacious and evil. They will smile at you as they lie through their teeth and prepare to plunge the knife into your back. It's a Chinese cultural behavior pattern that's literally thousands of years old, and the Communists are masters at the craft of stringing their enemies along while making them think they are friends, only to betray them and kill them when the time is right.

You can stick your head in the sand, or up your ass if you like, but rational people understand that the Chicoms are a dangerous enemy. Always have been, always will be, no matter how nice a face they put on it.

[Gawd]

And Seth shows us the way out of the American deadbeat problem: Invade China.

[Atheist-Lite]

And Seth shows us the way out of the American deadbeat problem: Invade China.

I suppose it is a human universal to look for a enemy that's different, rather than to worry about the guy next door? This paranoid thinking so common in the US I've noticed is gonna lead to civil war and a complete splintering of the States. I don't need a crystal ball I've got Seth to confirm the future here.

[Seth]

And Seth shows us the way out of the American deadbeat problem: Invade China.

I don't want to invade them, I want to economically marginalize them and do to them what Reagan did to the USSR; bankrupted them with military spending, and then leave them to eat fish heads, rice and each other until the people come to their senses and do to the Communists what the Communists do to counterrevolutionaries: shoot them in the head.

Now that the Chinese people have had a taste of capitalism, it's time to shut off the fount of wealth and squeeze them into economic collapse until they overthrow the Communists.

We can start by simply repudiating our debt to China because it's a hostile government.

Let's default on our China bond obligations immediately, while reassuring our political friends that their investment is still safe.

[Atheist-Lite]

And Seth shows us the way out of the American deadbeat problem: Invade China.

I don't want to invade them, I want to economically marginalize them and do to them what Reagan did to the USSR; bankrupted them with military spending, and then leave them to eat fish heads, rice and each other until the people come to their senses and do to the Communists what the Communists do to counterrevolutionaries: shoot them in the head.

Now that the Chinese people have had a taste of capitalism, it's time to shut off the fount of wealth and squeeze them into economic collapse until they overthrow the Communists.

We can start by simply repudiating our debt to China because it's a hostile government.

Let's default on our China bond obligations immediately, while reassuring our political friends that their investment is still safe.

I think shooting yourself in the foot may not persuade the Chinese or anyone else about anything beyond staying away from America.

[Pappa]

Just goes to show you that when you produce a superior product, sell it at the right price, control your costs and service your customers properly, the amount of money you can make is unlimited.

Nono.... it just goes to show you that when you master the art of marketing, the amount of money you can make is unlimited.