BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

[Brian Peacock]

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[rainbow]

What about 'leave with a deal'?

What deal do you think would be possible?

[Scot Dutchy]

A second ref would not solve anything.

You are even wronger than a wrong person.

He’s probably right. It would depend on the question on the ballot paper.

The worst possible outcome of a second referendum would be the near 50-50- split we had last time. We would be back exactly where we were after the last one. And if remain won the far right would create mayhem.

The question is simple.

In view of the fact that no deal is possible, does the UK:
1. Leave without a deal.
2. Remain in the EU.

That is far too simplistic. That is the major problem with referendum and they prove nothing.

[Svartalf]

What about 'leave with a deal'?

What deal do you think would be possible?

with an @rsehole of bojo's caliber in downing, none.

[Scot Dutchy]

He does not want a deal with the EU as he has one already been given one by the USA.

[pErvinalia]

What about 'leave with a deal'?

What deal do you think would be possible?

Didn't May come up with a deal?

[Svartalf]

But the morons in westminsters always refused to let it go beyond the project stage

[rainbow]

What about 'leave with a deal'?

What deal do you think would be possible?

Didn't May come up with a deal?

I think you'll find it was rejected, so no.

[rainbow]

That is the major problem with referendum and they prove nothing.

The Swiss do it all the time. Seems to work:
https://www.thelocal.ch/20190517/why-do ... eferendums

[pErvinalia]

What about 'leave with a deal'?

What deal do you think would be possible?

Didn't May come up with a deal?

I think you'll find it was rejected, so no.

Rejected by who? If you are referring to parliament, then that's the point of having a new referendum. Parliament hasn't been able to agree on anything.

[Scot Dutchy]

That is the major problem with referendum and they prove nothing.

The Swiss do it all the time. Seems to work:
https://www.thelocal.ch/20190517/why-do ... eferendums

Completely different situation. The political system in Switzerland is based on referenda. In the past all things there were decided in the town square with a show of hands. The UK never had that. It is a representative system.

[Rum]

I wonder what they do if there’s a tie, which is effectively what we’ve got.

[rainbow]

What about 'leave with a deal'?

What deal do you think would be possible?

Didn't May come up with a deal?

I think you'll find it was rejected, so no.

Rejected by who? If you are referring to parliament, then that's the point of having a new referendum. Parliament hasn't been able to agree on anything.

Prezackly. A deal is not a deal unless the parties agree.

[NineBerry]

I wonder what they do if there’s a tie, which is effectively what we’ve got.

They don't ask so stupid unclear questions like leaving or not leaving the EU and then have politicians deal with the details. They vote on clearly formulated specific detailed texts that then become law automatically.

The difference is that the range of people that voted for Brexit had a very wide range of ideas of how a Brexit would work. With the Swiss system, the full details are known beforehand.

So, when there is a 51 / 49 % tie, the 51% win, but they get exactly what they voted for and there will not be any discussion on how to implement the decision. It is clear before.

Also, with national decisions in Switzerland, you do not only need a majority of the votes, you also need a majority of the votes in a majority of the cantons. So, one region cannot decide on a federal issue over the opposition of other regions.

[rainbow]

That is the major problem with referendum and they prove nothing.

The Swiss do it all the time. Seems to work:
https://www.thelocal.ch/20190517/why-do ... eferendums

Completely different situation. The political system in Switzerland is based on referenda. In the past all things there were decided in the town square with a show of hands. The UK never had that. It is a representative system.

Well don't mess with something that works so well.