US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

[Robert_S]

I made the point earlier that there would be nothing wrong with martial arts, if it was sound, sensible, balanced people who took it up. The problem is that it's always the unbalanced wankers who go mad for it.
If it was balanced people who were likely to go to this guy's seminars, the government would have no reason to ban him.
So the government obviously agrees with me.

It's therefore clearly the official UK government position, that martial arts fans are unbalanced loonies.

You don't need to take my word for it, it's official.

All this means is that your whole fucking government is loony, right along with all the inhabitants.

Seth, you can't argue with the logic in mistermack's post.

I believe I just did argue with his logic. It's the same stupid pseudo-logic used to justify gun bans, which boils down to "Some bad/deranged person might make use of this knowledge to hurt someone, so we must try to deny this information to everyone, sane or deranged, regardless of their legitimate need for the information, on the premise that prohibition will prevent bad/deranged people from making wrongful use of the information." Of course, the idiocy inherent in this pseudo logic is that prohibition never prevented anyone intent on accessing knowledge (or objects) from doing so, and prohibition in this case only serves to leave law abiding people who might find a legitimate need for such information to defend themselves against the deranged/bad persons in society without the resources, equipment and knowledge they need to defend their lives and safety.

You can believe you argued with his logic. You can also believe you played a Deep Purple riff on a Gibson Stratocaster. You may well have played the intro to Smoke on the Water on something, but not on a Gibson Stratocaster.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

I don't believe this thread is still active.

[Robert_S]

I don't believe this thread is still active.

Can you direct me to a more fragrant dead horse?

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

I don't believe this thread is still active.

Can you direct me to a more fragrant dead horse?

Would a dead badger suffice?

[Robert_S]

I don't believe this thread is still active.

Can you direct me to a more fragrant dead horse?

Would a dead badger suffice?

http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/200 ... dger.shtml

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

[FBM]

Wtf.

[mistermack]

You can believe you argued with his logic. You can also believe you played a Deep Purple riff on a Gibson Stratocaster. You may well have played the intro to Smoke on the Water on something, but not on a Gibson Stratocaster.

Of course not. It was a Fender Les Paul.

[Mysturji]

I made the point earlier that there would be nothing wrong with martial arts, if it was sound, sensible, balanced people who took it up. The problem is that it's always the unbalanced wankers who go mad for it.
If it was balanced people who were likely to go to this guy's seminars, the government would have no reason to ban him.
So the government obviously agrees with me.

It's therefore clearly the official UK government position, that martial arts fans are unbalanced loonies.

You don't need to take my word for it, it's official.

All this means is that your whole fucking government is loony, right along with all the inhabitants.

Seth, you can't argue with the logic in mistermack's post.

Because there isn't any.
Mistermack - by his own admission - knows nothing about martial arts (no such admission was necessary, given the complete shit he's been spewing in this thread, but it was nice of him to own up) yet he keeps pontificating about "it" (note singular: Drugs is bad, m'kay?) making unsubstantiated assertions which are not only personal attacks on every forum member who has ever studied a martial art, but so fucking stupid that he must be either a troll or an idiot.
He sounds like a creationist talking about evilution... and that's what helped me decide which one he is.
No-one could possibly be that fucking stupid unless religion is involved. Therefore he's a troll. In fact, he's probably Seth. Ignore him and he might go away.

[klr]

I think the most important take-home message from this thread is that there's a mindset amongst certain people in the USA that views any relatively minor incident such as this as a massive slight against the U.S. Constitution, the Founding Fathers, the American way of life, and indeed The Natural Order of Things.

[Svartalf]

Hey, they insulted his mom by acting like he wasn't good enough for them, and they denied him apple pie.

[Hermit]

...making unsubstantiated assertions which are not only personal attacks on every forum member who has ever studied a martial art...

Here's an idea: Let's import the "group insult" rule from ratskep.

Mistermack... must be either a troll or an idiot. He sounds like a creationist talking about evilution... and that's what helped me decide which one he is. No-one could possibly be that fucking stupid unless religion is involved. Therefore he's a troll.

Good on you. At least your personal attacks are aimed at only one person at a time.

[Hermit]

I think the most important take-home message from this thread is that there's a mindset amongst certain people in the USA that views any relatively minor incident such as this as a massive slight against the U.S. Constitution, the Founding Fathers, the American way of life, and indeed The Natural Order of Things.

Dayamn Yearpeens! Sick Robby E. Lee onto thayam.

[Azathoth]

...making unsubstantiated assertions which are not only personal attacks on every forum member who has ever studied a martial art...

Here's an idea: Let's import the "group insult" rule from ratskep.

Let's not

[Hermit]

...making unsubstantiated assertions which are not only personal attacks on every forum member who has ever studied a martial art...

Here's an idea: Let's import the "group insult" rule from ratskep.

Let's not

Sorry. Forgot the sarcasm tag. Again. Will I ever learn?

No, don't answer that.