The Donald-thread

[Strontium Dog]

People complain endlessly that they're sick of politicians, and they're sick of dishonesty.

So now here we have a guy running for the top job who isn't a politician, who openly tells all and sundry that he's a groper and a voyeur, and the people are still not happy.

At the very least, you hope this sordid episode reminds folk of the value of politicians, and the value of guarded political speech.

[Scot Dutchy]

The cunt is a moron.

[Forty Two]

People complain endlessly that they're sick of politicians, and they're sick of dishonesty.

So now here we have a guy running for the top job who isn't a politician, who openly tells all and sundry that he's a groper and a voyeur, and the people are still not happy.

At the very least, you hope this sordid episode reminds folk of the value of politicians, and the value of guarded political speech.

for me - I agree Trump talked like a "lad" with unfortunate references to touching women and in a rather objectifying fashion. But, men and women both tend to get very colorful and extreme when chatting among themselves. If you hear the stories about past Presidents - Kennedy- for example, the vaunted JFK - he was very much of a womanizer and objectifier - he was banging interns in the White House, etc. Former White House intern Mimi Alford alleged that JFK 'took her virginity', without her consent(certainly without her modern day "verbal, enthusiastic and ongoing" consent), told her to perform sex acts on his friend while he watched, and made her take drugs - at one point she thought she was pregnant with JFK's child and he offered to arrange an illegal abortion.

Lyndon Johnson held staff meetings while he was on the toilet, and showed everyone his giant penis to impress them. When people mentioned Kennedy's many affairs, Johnson would bang the table and declare that he had more women by accident than Kennedy ever had on purpose. He was said to have "collected" women, felt entitled to their services, and Lady Bird knew about them, from Alice Glass, a very public relationship that began in the 1930s and lasted decades, to Helen Gahagan Douglas, who served in the House, to a woman who claimed Johnson was the father of her child and to whom he paid support for many years. He was crass and letcherous when talking about women.

I mean - does anyone really think there is a difference between powerful, type-A, egomaniacal men who are politicians and Donald Trump, other than the fact that Donald doesn't have the tact to keep his mouth shut?

Come on!

And, Hillary has a mouth, too - reportedly abusing staff and secret service personel -- calling them motherfuckers and such. She called people Jew Bastards, and is renowned to go on tirades of expletives like crazy. All in private. All covered up. All with the public personae held firmly in place. The trained public speeches, saying just what we want to hear. The private vs public positions on issues, that we've seen her admit to via Wikileaks.

One of the refreshing things about Trump is that he's like - look - the system is rigged, and I know because I was one of the rich guys buying politicians. I paid them money because I knew that they would then pick up the phone for me. He's a womanizer and a letch, sure. But he's not the first one of those in the white house.

Fuck the Republican Party -- it needed to be torn apart. It has been owned by the religious right for 3 decades and if I had to go through another Presidential run with some moralizing douchebag like Ted Cruz babbling on about their moral, religious conservatism, I would puke. I want a business guy. A guy who will fight. A guy who wants to get a job done and not sit around blathering on about gay marriage, the moral majority and family values. Enough! Get to work! Fix the economy, and get the US on the right track.

[Tero]

There isn't anything wrong with the economy that a tax on the rich and everybody on medicare would not fix!

[mistermack]

I haven't heard of any obscene gaffes today.

Is he ill?

[Tyrannical]

All trump needs to win the black vote is to pay off some rapper. I'm gonna grab Dat pussy like I be Donald Trump.......

[Tero]

If it's rap, it has to say "beat that pussy up", apparently:
http://theurbandaily.com/2013/03/22/bea ... ap-lyrics/

[JimC]

there are parliaments in the provinces of Australia?

Yeah, every state has a parliament and a Premier. All have two houses (upper and lower) except Tasmania, with a single house.

[Brian Peacock]

He's a total waste of space, a really repugnant character. There's nothing to like at all.

What a waste.
He should have been a member of our royal family.

[Brian Peacock]

You can admire his chutzpah

Apparently his chutzpah is HUGE.

[Brian Peacock]

A lot of women complain that Hillary threatened them to keep them silent over the sexual misconduct allegations they made against Bill. Nobody seems to credit those allegations, though, because they're not supported by evidence. Would 'twere folks applied the same standard to Trump.

Wrong thread again.

[JimC]

All these complaints are purely Trumped-up charges!

[tattuchu]

You can admire his chutzpah

Apparently his chutzpah is HUGE.

YUGE!

[Tero]

Pushed them against the wall
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl= ... pt0-466447

Not one managed to knee him in the balls.

Stuck his head under skirts. Not harrassment since no hands.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57ffd ... 2c043ac07f?

[Svartalf]

there are parliaments in the provinces of Australia?

Yeah, every state has a parliament and a Premier. All have two houses (upper and lower) except Tasmania, with a single house.

I knew Taz was small, but to the point of having only one house is excessive.