Bitch throws puppies into river

[Feck]

Cunt I cannot disagree with you ,about the release of information that may or not be the girls .I think I mentioned that earlier ?
But to use your example I do not doubt that slaughtermen share the same grim humour ,just like embalmers do BUT if you post a video of you throwing puppies in a river and making light of it then YOU ARE WRONG ! I do not even care if she laughed because she was deep down upset at what she was doing ,there were more humane ways to kill those pups and throwing them in the river like that was wrong .

[maiforpeace]

Wait! Why was I attacked on that one?

Because. You should be attacked and often.

[Animavore]

It's not the 60s any more. I thought the Irish were socially acceptable now?

[Feck]

Why? we don't need any more canals dug .

[Cunt]

Indeed - it's inhumanity and torture regardless. We should be giving a shit about it all and whenever we can.

Truly, but for me, this is kind of low on the torture scale.
Perhaps I have seen too much.
The fact that she seems to enjoy it doesn't faze me a bit...I saw much worse every day in a slaughterhouse (and I think it's often needed by those who kill)

I like the idea of publicizing crimes, but this one made a connection (a shitty one, I think) to a real person and has convicted her without even knowing for sure what happened.

I think what most people are objecting to is the fact that she allowed to have this video made, and appeared to enjoy making it. That's just sick and sadistic.
I think we are allowed to convict her of that.

Knowing the origins of the outrage (4chan) just what are you willing to stand behind?
I wouldn't even guarantee they are puppies, or that the 'girl' isn't a trap. Many assumptions have been made based on bullshit off /b/.

If she had been filmed doing that without her knowledge, and/or been sombre and serious about doing it, even then people would still be upset about it.

I have an idea that might help sandinista (or anyone else) make a real difference in the real world, without targetting a little girl.

In many of Canada's northern communities (hear that sandinista - right in your back door) there are regular cullings of feral dogs. People neglect their dogs (also spaying is tough to come by). The dogs form packs, then if you don't kill them they start robbing children and the elderly.

Since they are often shot by someone who doesn't want the job, you can guess how many suffer. If you can stop the problem somewhere else, you can prevent these dogs getting killed.

Regularly.

Often.

Come on. I fucking hate this, you do too.


Wat do?

[Robert_S]

I've been a vegetarian and I still don't eat meat very often.

Some people of that dietary persuasion are assholes, I think more than a few are in it for the self-righteousness of it. Still, that's not the majority of the ones I've encountered.


That said, I've seen meat eating people get very defensive very quick when I, or someone else brings up vegetarianism.

It's not an either/or thing with the visible warnings. It may be pressure from some vegetarian lobby making the "contains meat" labeling big, but it ain't them keeping the "contains peanuts" warning small.

"Some people of that dietary persuasion are assholes"? Of course. I mean, fuck, how many meat eaters are assholes. People can be assholes in general. I love all this "vegans/vegetarians" are assholes. Really?? I would be willing to bet my account here that there are more meat eating assholes than vegan assholes. Not literal assholes, like anuses...but fucking assholes. By world population alone thats gotta be true. If anyone thinks that "vegans/vegetarians" are loud mouthed or in your face about meat, its because "we" are up against an industry that is in our face constantly in the form or billions of dollars of advertising. Not sure about anywhere else, but over half the commercials on canadian tv are meat related. A "vegans/vegetarian" raising his or her voice is nothing when faced with that.

I was thinking of my early attempts to stop eating meat altogether. There were some vegans who got downright bitchy when I talked about my successes and failures without being sufficiently ashamed of myself for the latter.

But that's neither here nor there, you concentrated entirely on my caveat and seem to have glossed over my main point. That being, that vegetarians are getting unfairly blamed for the small type of the peanut warnings on food labels.

[Cunt]

Cunt I cannot disagree with you ,about the release of information that may or not be the girls .I think I mentioned that earlier ?
But to use your example I do not doubt that slaughtermen share the same grim humour ,just like embalmers do BUT if you post a video of you throwing puppies in a river and making light of it then YOU ARE WRONG ! I do not even care if she laughed because she was deep down upset at what she was doing ,there were more humane ways to kill those pups and throwing them in the river like that was wrong .

As to the slaughtermen, they regularly try to gross out the new people. Want to know specifics? Let me know if you do, or if 'farm life is different' explains it enough for you.

And if it's the best way she could think of? Lots of people would puke on themselves trying to hold a puppy down to cut it in half...just sayin...

I am not saying she is blameless, I am saying there isn't enough information to say who she is, or what her role was. I think tossing puppies into a river is gentler than some other methods. If I knew her I would certainly suggest a better one, but what sort of intervention do you think posting her 'dox' was meant to generate?

[Feck]

I know this seems a bit novel ..for an internet forum but could we drop this ?

It's not important on a global scale ,it's not happy or funny and even our differences about this are minor .

[maiforpeace]

I know this seems a bit novel ..for an internet forum but could we drop this ?

It's not important on a global scale ,it's not happy or funny and even our differences about this are minor .

It is very novel, considering some of the participants in this thread.

I know how you feel Feck as an animal lover. I will absolutely agree to drop it.

[Warren Dew]

I read the first couple chapters of that "book". wow. So full of errors and half truths I couldn't even believe it got published.

Of course it was. It was written by someone who had been vegetarian for years, after all!

Seriously, half truths are half truth. Lierre Keith certainly gets some things wrong, but she's fundamentally correct about the ecological disaster that is agriculture.

http://skepticalvegan.wordpress.com/201 ... rian-myth/

So this book offends me on two fronts, it offends my ethical sensibilities by justifying killing animals unnecessarily and having a flippant attitude toward human starvation.

He'll come around when he hears your "baby burger" solution, I'm sure!

[sandinista]

I read the first couple chapters of that "book". wow. So full of errors and half truths I couldn't even believe it got published.

Of course it was. It was written by someone who had been vegetarian for years, after all!

Seriously, half truths are half truth. Lierre Keith certainly gets some things wrong, but she's fundamentally correct about the ecological disaster that is agriculture.

And again, most of the destructive agriculture and mono crops on the planet are used for animal feed. Half truths are also half lies. Seriously, that book is a piece of garbage.

[Animavore]

Bosnian police think they've found the girl. They are going to question her parents. They may get fined up to €5,000.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... x4AXFx2I9w

[mistermack]

Bosnian police think they've found the girl. They are going to question her parents. They may get fined up to €5,000.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... x4AXFx2I9w

People should try to be more understanding. Apparently there are mitigating circumstances to this. The pups were actually wolf cubs, and the girl's name used to be little red riding hood, although she's a bit bigger now. She was traumatised by a wolf as a child, and is thought to be suffering from delayed post-traumatic-stress-disorder.
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[Warren Dew]

Bosnian police think they've found the girl. They are going to question her parents. They may get fined up to €5,000.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... x4AXFx2I9w

A fine certainly seems like an appropriate way to handle it to me. That provides incentive to take the puppies to a shelter or to a vet.

[Cunt]

Shouldn't they toss in a littering citation?

I still think no matter what method she used to kill them, having it on youtube is what will get her in trouble.