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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:19 am

Israel foreign minister says they will not defend themselves at hearings into allegations that their actions break the UN charter, and also says that the ICJ, UNRWA and the UN should be the ones on trial.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 13, 2025 12:33 pm

Trump's deputy security adviser has just been on the radio saying that there's far more food entering Gaza than the population are capable of eating. When he was challenged with the fact that Israel has blocked all supplies for the last 70 days the man became crazed and belligerent, declaring he would not comment on fake left-wing news and would quit the interview if he was asked about it again.

Food security experts warn Gaza at ‘critical risk of famine’ amid Israeli blockade
Gaza is at “critical risk of famine”, food security experts have warned, 10 weeks after Israel imposed a blockade on the devastated Palestinian territory, cutting off all supplies including food, medicine, shelter and fuel.

In its most recent report, the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) said on Monday there had been a “major deterioration” in the food security situation in Gaza since its last assessment in October 2024 and that Palestinians living there faced “a critical risk of famine”.

“Goods indispensable for people’s survival are either depleted or expected to run out in the coming weeks. The entire population is facing high levels of acute food insecurity, with half a million people – one in five – facing starvation,” said the IPC, a consortium of independent specialists tasked by the UN and international NGOs with assessing the risk of famine in crises worldwide.

Israel imposed its strict blockade in early March, after the end of the first phase of a supposed three-phase ceasefire. Just over two weeks later, a new wave of attacks by the Israeli military definitively ended the truce...
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Svartalf » Tue May 13, 2025 12:50 pm

well, given how much the gazan population has been diminished of late, I can understand that the food deliveries might be oversized

that or there are people lying through their orange haired teeth
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by rainbow » Wed May 14, 2025 10:19 pm

Svartalf wrote:
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well, given how much the gazan population has been diminished of late, I can understand that the food deliveries might be oversized

that or there are people lying through their orange haired teeth
UK Lawyers for Israel condemned over claim war may reduce obesity in Gaza

Palestinian rights group says remarks criticising a Lancet analysis on impact of the conflict are ‘sickening’
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon May 19, 2025 10:44 am

Netenhyau says Israel shouldn't let Gazans starve too much because it might look bad on US TV.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon May 19, 2025 10:48 am

netanyahu needs to step down and let somebody less of an ahole take the reins
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon May 19, 2025 7:39 pm

Svartalf wrote:netanyahu needs to step down and let somebody less of an ahole take the reins
And where will we find someone like that in Israeli politics at the moment? If he steps down he's instantly on trial for corruption. A forever war suits him.
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Svartalf » Mon May 19, 2025 7:44 pm

mmmh, maybe we should do away with israel altogether, if there's not a just man in there, then we need to go Sodom and Gomorrah with the place.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 20, 2025 7:40 am

That might be fine as a stray, abstract thought - simply make the problem disappear in a puff of smoke as it were - but in reality this has to be taken seriously. The Israeli public are overwhelming in favour of the war, while at the same time the majority think the govt should negotiate the return of the Oct 7 hostages before flattening Gaza. Bibi might be unpopular, but if he left office it's more than likely going to open the door for his right-wing coalition partners rather than the more moderate members of the cabinet - who are still not moderate in their views on Palestinian independence.

In other words, there is no significant popular or political opposition or alternative to the systematic ethnic cleansing/extermination of Palestinians from within Isreal at the moment, and what disagreement there is mostly concerns details about the process. Therefore the only thing that might shift the balance away from Israel's longstanding policy of using the mass murder of its Arab population as a political tool is pressure from outside; pressure in the form of international political condemnation and the removal of Western economic and military support for the genocide and the forced expansion of settlements in Palestinian areas; boycotts, divestment, and sanctions etc.

However, Western political leaders have shown themselves to be more than willing to make themselves, and by extension their citizens, complicit in the genocide through cowardice and political expediency. So, as with the opposition to the Apartheid in South Africa, and given the abject failure of our political representatives, a moral burden inevitably falls upon the citizens of the states supporting Israel to condemn, oppose, and demonstrate against the slaughter and to advocate for a negotiated and sustainable peace. The least we can do is get out on the streets, write to our members of parliament, withdraw our vote from genocide enablers, and if we can afford it donate to what few relief programs remain for Palestinians.
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Post by Animavore » Tue May 27, 2025 12:45 pm

That Kneecap, though.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue May 27, 2025 3:25 pm

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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by aufbahrung » Tue May 27, 2025 7:16 pm

No cure for the middle east. Something in the soil. Makes them all murderers in the name of any God or no God. There's no sides and there's no cure outside of nuking the entire region from orbit. Quit taking sides - just setting yourself up for being on the wrong one next week.
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 27, 2025 11:29 pm

Animavore wrote:
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That Kneecap, though.
I know, right? Now everyone is talking about them and what they said.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 27, 2025 11:31 pm

aufbahrung wrote:
Tue May 27, 2025 7:16 pm
No cure for the middle east. Something in the soil. Makes them all murderers in the name of any God or no God. There's no sides and there's no cure outside of nuking the entire region from orbit. Quit taking sides - just setting yourself up for being on the wrong one next week.
Easy to say from the comfort of your rocking chair - even easier to believe if you subscribe to a morally essentialist naturalistic fallacy view of humanity. It's in their nature, right?
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by aufbahrung » Wed May 28, 2025 5:05 pm

Unfortunately the human is a cruel and cunning animal in constant denial about his true nature. Nothing changes with the addition of nukes. Cleverer but no wiser than the earlier editions who wiped out entire civilizations, today. They could be fighting over which side crack a egg...they'd all fight to the death all the same.
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