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Post by Hermit » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:37 am

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Hermit wrote:Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. - Tom Lehrer

May as well go and poison the pigeons in the park instead.
He is right as these things are actually dead serious. He is still alive, wonder what he is making out of Trump.
That's one way of looking at it. I don't think that is what was in Lehrer's mind when he made that quip. For one thing, sabotaging the Paris peace negotiations in order to improve Nixon's election chances was serious business. It ensured that the Vietnam war would continue for another four years, costing the lives of another 22,000 US soldiers and fuck knows how many hundred thousand non-US lives.

In an interview Lehrer explained why he made that comment: "...everything is so weird in politics that it's very hard to be funny about it". You can't trump, so to speak, the weirdness of an actively war-mongering politician receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. Political satire consists of ridiculing a scenario by exaggerating its absurdity or weirdness. Since Kissinger's award, so says Lehrer, the peak of weirdness has been reached. No political satire can top that. It has become obsolete.

Lehrer is 88 years old. Having retired from public appearances roughly half a century ago, I don't expect him to issue public statements now.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:36 am

Another Trump bed-fellow crawls out of the woodwork:
Julian Assange gives guarded praise of Trump and blasts Clinton in interview

WikiLeaks founder said there are opportunities for the US to change under the Trump administration – ‘change for the worse and change for the better’

Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has offered guarded praise of Donald Trump, arguing the president-elect “is not a DC insider” and could mean an opportunity for positive as well as negative change in the US.

Assange described his feelings about the US election results in an interview as “mixed” before going on to sharply criticize Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and providing a more ambivalent assessment of Trump’s ascent to the White House.

“Hillary Clinton’s election would have been a consolidation of power in the existing ruling class of the United States,” Assange told the Italian newspaper la Repubblica.

“Donald Trump is not a DC insider, he is part of the wealthy ruling elite of the United States, and he is gathering around him a spectrum of other rich people and several idiosyncratic personalities.”

He added: “They do not by themselves form an existing structure, so it is a weak structure which is displacing and destabilising the pre-existing central power network within DC. It is a new patronage structure which will evolve rapidly, but at the moment its looseness means there are opportunities for change in the United States: change for the worse and change for the better.”

In the week leading up to the election, Assange used his whistleblowing website to publish a cascade of emails connected to the Democratic party and the Clinton campaign.

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Just shows the emptiness of Assange in supporting the lowest form of life.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:44 am

He makes a reasonable assessment.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:00 am

Really think so?

Weird. The lowlife that is Trump is preferable to experienced hands of Clinton?
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Post by Hermit » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:05 am

pErvin wrote:He makes a reasonable assessment.
That's my reading of it too, although, given Trump's track record as well as those of the people he fills his administration with, I regard "opportunities for change in the United States ... for the better" as not even a theoretical possibility.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:14 am

Anything that praises Trump is never a good assessment.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:27 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:Really think so?

Weird. The lowlife that is Trump is preferable to experienced hands of Clinton?
Clinton is what is so wrong in American politics. Trump is clearly a retard, but the points Assuange makes about him seem reasonable.
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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:05 pm

pErvin wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Really think so?

Weird. The lowlife that is Trump is preferable to experienced hands of Clinton?
Clinton is what is so wrong in American politics. Trump is clearly a retard, but the points Assuange makes about him seem reasonable.
This is typical of the ABC'ers. Do you realise what lowlife Trump is and his family are. Mother and daughter porn stars. JFCOAPS. A six times bankrupt. A tax dodger. A groper and that is going to be in charge of the most powerful country in the world.

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By contrast, Trump is is about as indecent a human being as you could wish for, in someone who hasn't yet been convicted of a capital offence. And given his behaviour over the past few weeks, I suspect it won't be long before his manifest social and intellectual inadequacies lead him down the indictable path. His idea of "political discourse" consists of bullying, threats, and a level of corruption that would make Nigerian 419 scammers blush. Trump is Caligula to Obama's Trajan.
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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Tero » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:47 pm

Needs more ventilation, then. Shit smells.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Jason » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:49 pm

Shit has energy. Shit is dynamic. Shit brings new growth. Harness that shit.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:02 pm

Śiva wrote:Shit has energy. Shit is dynamic. Shit brings new growth. Harness that shit.
Not Trumpshit.
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Post by Jason » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:26 pm

Trumpshit is so thick and rich. Its inconsistency makes it really easy to spread.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Tero » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:43 pm

This just in! Trump asked for lists of cabinet department workers working on "whatever is the goal of that department". Those goals will now no longer be supported.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:17 am

Śiva wrote:Trumpshit is so thick and rich.
It's tremendous. Some of the best shit out there.
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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by DRSB » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:45 am

"Professor who harassed Ivanka Trump on airplane hit with bad book reviews"
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