Palestine v Israel.

[rainbow]

Yahoo had an asshole transplant, but it rejected him.

[Brian Peacock]

[Strontium Dog]

I don't believe it. Not from the most moral army in the world.

Strontium Dog popped in two days ago but even he's given up trying to justify what the govt and IDF are doing now.

Nobody needs to justify self-defence. It's the most basic human right there is.

[Brian Peacock]

I don't believe it. Not from the most moral army in the world.

Strontium Dog popped in two days ago but even he's given up trying to justify what the govt and IDF are doing now.

Nobody needs to justify self-defence. It's the most basic human right there is.

Alas, the content of your reply ignores the context of the text you have quoted. Did you do that deliberately?

[JimC]

I don't believe it. Not from the most moral army in the world.

Strontium Dog popped in two days ago but even he's given up trying to justify what the govt and IDF are doing now.

Nobody needs to justify self-defence. It's the most basic human right there is.

In law, self defence is hedged by what response is reasonable and proportionate. If someone were to deliberately bump into you in the street, then you pulled out a gun and shot them, you would not expect that to be a reasonable case of self defence...

[Strontium Dog]

Alas, the content of your reply ignores the context of the text you have quoted. Did you do that deliberately?

I lost interest in Haaretz's blood libels some time ago. They pander to a Western audience that sees Jews as the bad guys, because they know nobody is buying their bullshit at home any more.

In law, self defence is hedged by what response is reasonable and proportionate. If someone were to deliberately bump into you in the street, then you pulled out a gun and shot them, you would not expect that to be a reasonable case of self defence...

Because murdering and raping 1,200 people and kidnapping 250 more is just like bumping into someone in the street, isn't it.

[JimC]

That was not a direct analogy, just an illustration of the restricted nature of legal self defence. Most people would accept the right of an Israeli military response to attacks by Hamas et al, but the continuing destruction of Gaza and its civilians is disproportionate at the very least...

[pErvinalia]

Slaughtering kids is self-defence, Jim. You antisemite, you!

[Woodbutcher]

I don't believe it. Not from the most moral army in the world.

Strontium Dog popped in two days ago but even he's given up trying to justify what the govt and IDF are doing now.

Nobody needs to justify self-defence. It's the most basic human right there is.

In law, self defence is hedged by what response is reasonable and proportionate. If someone were to deliberately bump into you in the street, then you pulled out a gun and shot them, you would not expect that to be a reasonable case of self defence...

Possibly in the States...

[Brian Peacock]

Alas, the content of your reply ignores the context of the text you have quoted. Did you do that deliberately?

I lost interest in Haaretz's blood libels some time ago. They pander to a Western audience that sees Jews as the bad guys, because they know nobody is buying their bullshit at home any more.

Shooting the messengers along with the women and children now eh? Seems ignoring the context was a deliberate choice after all.

[rainbow]

Because murdering and raping 1,200 people and kidnapping 250 more is just like bumping into someone in the street, isn't it.

No forensic evidence of rape. Why is that?

Video evidence of IDF rape of Palestinians held without charge. How is this self-defense?

[Brian Peacock]

“They have many symptoms,” says Ibrahim, describing how trauma is manifesting daily in children in Gaza. “Being attached to their parents to the point that they don’t want to leave the place they are in – such as a tent. Severe anxiety and fear. Going to the toilet a lot – involuntary urination, basically.

“They don’t want to participate in activities. They can’t sleep, they’re having trouble eating. Sometimes it can escalate to the point where a child becomes catatonic. They can’t speak. They can’t connect to family members because of severe trauma. Some have become very angry, defensive, aggressive. Some also have speech impediments – they can’t talk; they stutter.”

Ibrahim and his fellow frontline emergency protection officers see these symptoms every day in the tented shelters, camps and cities in their work for War Child, which offers mental health services and educational help to children in Gaza and is one of this year’s three Guardian and Observer appeal charities.

There are children such as one recently seen by Mohammed, an emergency response officer. Identified as severely traumatised, the boy was receiving one-to-one specialist counselling in the corner of a crowded shelter that was home to 3,000 people. “He can communicate only by his drawings. He is mute. He does not have the ability to talk because of his panic from the war. He is six years old,” says Mohammed, who, like his colleagues, is speaking to the Observer via video link from Gaza and through an interpreter. “It’s very hard for anybody to imagine.”...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... d-children

[Brian Peacock]

From The Lancet:

Traumatic injury mortality in the Gaza Strip from Oct 7, 2023, to June 30, 2024: a capture–recapture analysis

Jamaluddine et al, 2025-01-09

Summary

Background

Accurate mortality estimates help quantify and memorialise the impact of war. We used multiple data sources to estimate deaths due to traumatic injury in the Gaza Strip between Oct 7, 2023, and June 30, 2024.

Methods

We used a three-list capture–recapture analysis using data from Palestinian Ministry of Health (MoH) hospital lists, an MoH online survey, and social media obituaries. After imputing missing values, we fitted alternative generalised linear models to the three lists' overlap structure, with each model representing different possible dependencies among lists and including covariates predictive of the probability of being listed; we averaged the models to estimate the true number of deaths in the analysis period (Oct 7, 2023, to June 30, 2024). Resulting annualised age-specific and sex-specific mortality rates were compared with mortality in 2022.

Findings

We estimated 64,260 deaths (95% CI 55,298–78,525) due to traumatic injury during the study period, suggesting the Palestinian MoH under-reported mortality by 41%. The annualised crude death rate was 39.3 per 1000 people (95% CI 35.7–49.4), representing a rate ratio of 14.0 (95% CI 12.8–17.6) compared with all-cause mortality in 2022, even when ignoring non-injury excess mortality. Women, children (aged <18 years), and older people (aged ≥65 years) accounted for 16,699 (59.1%) of the 28,257 deaths for which age and sex data were available.

Interpretation

Our findings show an exceptionally high mortality rate in the Gaza Strip during the period studied. These results underscore the urgent need for interventions to prevent further loss of life and illuminate important patterns in the conduct of the war.

Open Access: PDF.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Written and peer-reviewed by antisemites, clearly.

[rainbow]

Written and peer-reviewed by antisemites, clearly.

... more blood libel.

The Hasbara Handbook tells me so.
https://www.scribd.com/document/7729817 ... ra-Toolkit