US 2018 November elections

[Forty Two]

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It's also a complete misrepresentation of what "trickle down" means in supply side economics. The theory is that a lower tax rate on businesses would foster economic growth overall, which would benefit consumers by having more goods and services at lower prices, and more jobs available, etc. It doesn't mean "give a bunch of money to the rich and they will dole it out to the poor." That's the mischaracterization the Leftists want to sell.

There is literally no lefty who has ever said that.

[Tero]

Cutting taxes on businesses might cause some trickle down. On individuals, no. Why does the CEO of nonprofits like Blue Cross Blue Shield need to make tens of millions? And not get taxed 50%?

[laklak]

Does it matter that he's CEO of a nonprofit?

[Tero]

Does to me. Took my bill up a hundred dollars probably. I no longer have that as they left our Obamacare.

[laklak]

$100? Damn, you got lucky. I don't see why his tax rate should differ from anyone earning the same, though.

[Tero]

”Throw out any signatures by black people.”
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... t-absentee

[Tero]

$100? Damn, you got lucky. I don't see why his tax rate should differ from anyone earning the same, though.

Yeah tax anyone making 10 or 30 million at 55% for every million over 2.

And I’m paying that man’s 30 million by xx dollars every month. So is Healthcare.gov.

[laklak]

Yeah I got no problem with that tax rate. If you can't live on 2 mil a year you need to seriously reevaluate your lifestyle choices. Fuck me I'd work ONE goddamn year. OK maybe two, there's this big trawler....

[Joe]

I think you'll be okay Forty Two, unless the Russians are paying you. The article says the problem was she wasn't registered as a foreign agent.

The conduct singled out Friday runs afoul of criminal laws that bar foreign nationals from attempting to influence American elections or from engaging in political activities without first registering with the attorney general, prosecutors said.

It's better to just go read the indictment than rely on some reporter not to muck it up.

Even if the Russians were paying me, how can that limit my right to express my political opinions?

If you really read the indictment Tovarishch, you wouldn't need to ask. It was explained in detail.

5. The United States of America, through its departments and agencies, regulates the activities of foreign individuals and entities in and affecting the United States in order to prevent, disclose, and counteract improper foreign influence on US. elections and on the US. political system. US. law bans foreign nationals from making certain expenditures or providing things of value for the purpose of influencing federal elections. US. law also bars agents of any foreign entity from engaging in political activities within the United States without first registering with the Attorney General. Various federal agencies, including the US. Department of Justice and the Federal Election Commission, are charged with enforcing these laws.

6. The US. Department of Justice administers the Foreign Agent Registration Act Title 22, United States Code, Section 611 et seq. FARA establishes a registration, reporting, and disclosure regime for agents of foreign principals (which includes foreign non-government individuals and entities) so that the U.S. government and the people of the United States are informed of the source of information and the identity of persons attempting to influence US. public opinion, policy, and law. FARA requires, among other things, that persons subject to its requirements submit periodic registration statements containing truthful information about their activities and the income earned from them. Disclosure of the required information allows the federal government and the American people to evaluate the statements and activities of such persons in light of their function as foreign agents.

It doesn't limit your rights, it obligates you to register as a foreign agent, which you are if the Russians are paying you to post on their behalf.

Do you think it clears it up to suggest there was a failure to register?

What about Mexican nationals who attempt to influence the election? What about Honduran nationals who attempt to influence the election?

This law is rather dangerous and appears to be facially unconstitutional.

If you do read the indictment, you'll see that Project Lakhta was or is an international effort, not just in the US, but Russian led groups "sowing discord and distrust in political candidates and political institutions" in many countries, not just the US.

I read the entire indictment. Nowhwere does it allege that somebody failed to register.

Clearly you read English as well as you write it.

14. I There is probable cause to believe that, from at least 2014 to the present, KHUSYAYNOVA conspired with persons known and unknown to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the US. Department of Justice and Federal Election Commission in administering federal requirements for disclosure of foreign involvement in certain domestic activities, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 371. Among the persons with whom KHUSYAYNOVA conspired are known and unknown employees and associates of Concord and Project Lakhta entities. The Conspiracy had as its objects impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful governmental functions of the United States by dishonest means in order to enable Project Lakhta actors to interfere with US. political and electoral processes, including the 2018 US. elections.

TL;DR. She didn't register.

Read that thing. It's a recitation of a group of Russians who engaged in social media posting and facebook meme-ing. It can't be a serious indictment. If it is, then anyone who isn't an American citizen can be indicted for engaging in political discussion and debate on social media. Seriously - read that indictment - tell me what the Defendants being indicted are said to have done specifically. I know they say "interfere with the election" and "sow discord" -- but what I'm asking is for you to tell me what the indictment says these folks did, factually, that constitute a crime.

This is a very concerning indictment, as it would criminalize, say, a humanitarian group criticizing American political candidates or the American political system, as that would be "sowing discord and distrust in the political system and candidates."

In the run up to the election, foreign born persons from Britain, France, Australia, Canada, Mexico, the world over, publish memes just like the ones in the indictment - and they express support for, opposition to and distrust of American political leaders, candidates and systems.

What about the "abolish ICE" movement? Are only Americans allowed to say that on social media? Is it a fraud against the United States for a foreign group to pay people to push an agenda that includes sowing distrust in ICE?

Well Forty Two, I obviously did read it, and Mueller's indictment as well. If you really had read it, you wouldn't need me to tell you what it says these people did.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Brilliant! You can find a lot more of those here.

As for voter ID laws being a means of disproportionally suppressing minority vote, that is a fact, whether you care to acknowledge it or not.

The proliferation of increasingly strict voter identification laws around the country has raised concerns about voter suppression and inequality. Although there are lots of reasons to suspect that these laws could harm groups like racial minorities and the poor, existing studies have generally failed to demonstrate a link between voter ID laws and voter turnout among these groups. We question these null effects. We argue that because most of the studies occurred before states enacted the strictest photo identification requirements, they tend to uncover few effects. Focusing on the validated vote in recent elections using the Cooperative Congressional Election Study we are able to offer a more definitive test. The analysis shows that strict photo identification laws have a differentially negative impact on the turnout of Hispanics, Blacks, and mixed-race Americans in primaries and general elections. Voter ID laws skew democracy in favor of whites and those on the political right.

You have a lot of company, though.

Most Americans—even average Democrats—do not accept the argument that voter identification laws can suppress voter turnout, according to a new study that includes a University of Kansas professor.

The findings can help illuminate why polarization surrounding voter ID laws occurs mostly among party leaders but has not trickled down much to the public, even among groups of Americans like racial minorities, the young, and the low income who are most likely to be affected by voter ID laws, said Patrick Miller a KU assistant professor of political science.

"For most Americans, especially middle-class white people, who possess a government-issued ID, it's difficult for them to understand why people might not have one, and it's difficult for them to understand how it can be challenging to get one sometimes," Miller said. "It's an argument that I think a lot of people aren't really sympathetic to."

Miller's study with co-author Pamela Johnston Conover, distinguished professor of political science at The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, was published recently in the journal Social Science Quarterly.

[Seabass]

Brilliant! You can find a lot more of those here.

Infowars. Of course.

[Sean Hayden]

If we're concerned about voter ID laws we should set up a volunteer organization that gets people their ID. I'm trying to imagine the situations where it can be difficult. If you have warrants it can be tough to get one in the city/county/state who issued the warrant. If you've got no proof anywhere of who you are, that's a pain the ass, but hardly impossible. If you can't leave the house, well let's work on something other than your ID first then. If you're homeless, ditto.


It'll be the easiest non-profit ever guys. We essentially give people a ride, or help find/fill out forms and wait.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Infowars. Of course.

The "NPC" political meme got its start on 4chan, but has been quickly adopted by, eh, certain other elements in the political world. Looked at objectively, it is a way of dehumanizing those whom it purports to depict--'mindless leftist scum.'