Obama's Marxist politics stink so badly...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

In Sethism, there isn't much room left after he labels Obama a Marxist. If he calls a centre-right capitalist a Marxist, then what is there left to call the real commies?

"Democrats".

[Red Celt]

The difference between Marxist/Socialist countries and the United States is that Marxist countries build fences and walls to keep people IN, while the United States builds walls and fences to keep people OUT.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

PS Seth says you can all fuck off!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The difference between Marxist/Socialist countries and the United States is that Marxist countries build fences and walls to keep people IN, while the United States builds walls and fences to keep people OUT.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

PS Seth says you can all fuck off!

The doors slammed shut shortly after his ancestor arrived.

[Red Celt]

The doors slammed shut shortly after his ancestor arrived.

Like... the very next day?

"I'm alright, Jack! The rest of you migrants... fuck offski, you Marxists that you are!" (paraphrased)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The doors slammed shut shortly after his ancestor arrived.

Like... the very next day?

"I'm alright, Jack! The rest of you migrants... fuck offski, you Marxists that you are!" (paraphrased)

Yeah. People like Seeth forget they haven't been here forever, their ancestors invaded this country.

[Seth]

The difference between Marxist/Socialist countries and the United States is that Marxist countries build fences and walls to keep people IN, while the United States builds walls and fences to keep people OUT.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

PS Seth says you can all fuck off!

Yup. That was then, this is now, and the US cannot afford to be the dumping ground for the wretched refuse of every other country. Far better for the wretched refuse to take up arms in their own countries and expel tyranny, despotism, socialism and Marxism and install capitalism and free markets.

I'd love nothing better than to air-drop billions of M-4s and trillions of rounds of ammunition on every other nation on earth, so the people can decide for themselves whether they want to be enslaved or not.

If socialism is such a good idea, why do socialist governments, as a primary act, disarm the citizenry? If socialism is really the best political model, then an armed citizenry would be no threat whatsoever to the Marxist elite in control and they would welcome a citizenry capable of defending Marxism against its enemies.

Strangely, that's not how it happens. Ever.

Quod erat demonstrandum

[JimC]

What do we consider China these days? Communist hardly seems to fit. I think the best way to describe them would be either fascist or national socialist.

Then in Europe we have these champagne socialists that act like something out of the book animal farm.

Whatever experimentation they are doing with free-enterprise (which has lifted their output and efficiency a lot), they are still in love with central control, and the dictatorship of a Party Oligarchy. Now, they have simply invited corrupt, criminal entrepreneurs to join...

They need their very own label...

But fuck it, as long as they keep buying aussie resources, they're not a bad bunch of galahs, cobber...

[Jason]

They're losing their iron grip on China's popular culture as they do. China defies a label because it's evolving so fast, on the relative scale on which cultural evolution has occurred for all other nations.

[JimC]

They're losing their iron grip on China's popular culture as they do. China defies a label because it's evolving so fast, on the relative scale on which cultural evolution has occurred for all other nations.

I agree it is quick, and they face the danger of populist revolts. However, if they keep the Red Army sweet, with lots of opportunity for corruption, they can face these down...

[rainbow]

In Sethism, there isn't much room left after he labels Obama a Marxist. If he calls a centre-right capitalist a Marxist, then what is there left to call the real commies?

"Democrats".

To be more precise "Democrats that support gun control".
With guns in the hands of every second citizen, you will have a guarantee of freedom and prosperity.
Like in Somalia.
I believe it really works well there.

[ronmcd]

The difference between Marxist/Socialist countries and the United States is that Marxist countries build fences and walls to keep people IN, while the United States builds walls and fences to keep people OUT.

I thought you said the American President was a Marxist?

He is. That does not mean that the United States is a Marxist state...yet. Obama is just a Marxist sleeper agent who managed to get elected by lying through his teeth constantly.

So Obama lied by not revealing his intention to bring forward Marxist policies?

I'm confused. If he doesn't ACTUALLY bring forward any marxist policies at all in his 2nd term, just as he didn't in his 1st, how will you explain that? He forgot?

[JimC]

The difference between Marxist/Socialist countries and the United States is that Marxist countries build fences and walls to keep people IN, while the United States builds walls and fences to keep people OUT.

I thought you said the American President was a Marxist?

He is. That does not mean that the United States is a Marxist state...yet. Obama is just a Marxist sleeper agent who managed to get elected by lying through his teeth constantly.

So Obama lied by not revealing his intention to bring forward Marxist policies?

I'm confused. If he doesn't ACTUALLY bring forward any marxist policies at all in his 2nd term, just as he didn't in his 1st, how will you explain that? He forgot?

Clearly, it will be the successful efforts of heroic libertarians who force Obama to cower in his bunker, gnashing his teeth at his failure to establish the US commintern...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Seeth wanks to Das Kapital.

[Calilasseia]

Seeth wanks to Das Kapital.

Bloody hell, I can't imagine even an actual Marxist doing that. Not least because if you read the book, it's written in funereally boring prose. It's even worse in the original German, and oddly enough, exhibits some of the same abuses of German grammar, that can be found in the original text of Mein Kampf. Marx spent ten entire chapters expounding the Labour Theory of Value assertion, which can be summed up in a single sentence. But then, Victorian writers had a tendency to engage in long bouts of circumlocution.

You would have to be pathologically obsessed with politics to regard a treatise like Das Kapital as wank fodder. I don't think even Arthur Scargill descended to those depths.

[Tero]

Only one thing more boring than that: german poetry. Do not attempt it! you will spend a week in a coma. With Wagner, at least the singer keeps you awake.