The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

[stripes4]

Which is why life should be life....
but not death.

[Hermit]

I only troll trolls

There really is no such thing as a white-hat troll.

[Berthold]

The cases that made it into our news were executed after a duration of imprisonment when here they would have been eligible for conditional release.

[drl2]

"Ian understands politics better than I do."

I've only been distractedly skimming the political threads over the last few weeks - did I miss something where you lost a bet?

[Coito ergo sum]

"Ian understands politics better than I do."

I've only been distractedly skimming the political threads over the last few weeks - did I miss something where you lost a bet?

Yep - I took a long shot bet that the 'publicans would take the Senate. It's supposed to be there for 30 days, and I think it's getting close, or already passed. The election was in early November, but I recall it was a week or two before I got around to popping that phrase up on my signature. I'm giving Ian his bet's worth....

[Trolldor]

I only troll trolls

There really is no such thing as a white-hat troll.

Trolls trolling trolls troll for the lulz.
Just a different target.
No nobility there.
Except Sandy isn't a troll, nor gawd. Too much missing - such as substance - to qualify.

[sandinista]

I only troll trolls

There really is no such thing as a white-hat troll.

Trolls trolling trolls troll for the lulz.
Just a different target.
No nobility there.
Except Sandy isn't a troll, nor gawd. Too much missing - such as substance - to qualify.

Fixate much nutter?

As an aside, I too only troll trolls.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I only troll trolls

There really is no such thing as a white-hat troll.

I didn't say I was a white-hat.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

As an aside, I too only troll trolls.

Or you would if you were smart enough.

[Trolldor]

I only troll trolls

There really is no such thing as a white-hat troll.

Trolls trolling trolls troll for the lulz.
Just a different target.
No nobility there.
Except Sandy isn't a troll, nor gawd. Too much missing - such as substance - to qualify.

Fixate much nutter?

As an aside, I too only troll trolls.

Trolling requires specifically targeted, well generated posts which elicit extreme over-reaction.

In which case, you are a fail troll.

[JimC]

The death penalty is a good thing. Why crowd the prison system and waste taxpayer money just so that you lock someone up for god so many years? Locking someone up for many years is a form of torture. It is much more humane to just kill them. All that you are doing is pro-longing the suffering by keeping them alive. There is nothing wrong with sentencing someone to death for serious crimes. They are a lost cause and it is highly illogical to confine them in small spaces for years on end instead of just giving them a quick injection or the guillotine.

This is the first thing you've written here that I can say I agree with.

You agree with that? Damn.

I been a long time supporter of capital punishment, the prison system is a drain on the economy.

Oh dear god, you said that out loud.

Can we get a few priorities straight? If you're making an economic argument then, leaving aside the fact that execution costs more than imprisonment, are you really telling me that this is the best assault you can make on the national debt? Do me a favour.

Not the only reason, but an effective one, you say capital punishment doesn't reduce crime rates, it certainly prevents the same person from committing that crime again, and the prisons are full of repeat offenders.

I don't care that you disagree with me, but no amount of education will alter a psychopathic or sociopathic personality.

I don't think the economic argument will fly. I presume that most people advocating capital punishment will reserve it for murder, rather than manslaughter, and even some murder cases may have extenuating circumstances. The total number of people that you would remove from the prison population each year, especially in Europe and other places with low murder rates, would be an insignificant fraction of the total.

An additional argument for capital punishment in this thread (mainly Gawd, I think) was a rather strange argument that keeping prisoners in jail for a very long time was cruel; he emphasised "being stuck in tiny boxes". FFS, in western countries, most long-term jail inmates have TVs, exercise periods, relatively comfortable cells, adequate if boring food, and social contact. We're not talking solitary confinement here.

The one issue that concerns me are the cases (admittedly rare, but they do exist) of people who have served time for violent sex crimes and the like, been released, and re-offended. Surely by now we can ensure that life really does mean life for those offenders with a chance of committing such crimes again.

[sandinista]

As an aside, I too only troll trolls.

Or you would if you were smart enough.

coming from you, well...that made my day

I only troll trolls

There really is no such thing as a white-hat troll.

Trolls trolling trolls troll for the lulz.
Just a different target.
No nobility there.
Except Sandy isn't a troll, nor gawd. Too much missing - such as substance - to qualify.

Fixate much nutter?

As an aside, I too only troll trolls.

Trolling requires specifically targeted, well generated posts which elicit extreme over-reaction.

In which case, you are a fail troll.

if that is the case, trolls have far more to say than you, amazing, so, what does that make you? Just a moron?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

As an aside, I too only troll trolls.

Or you would if you were smart enough.

coming from you, well...that made my day

Q.E.D.

[Don't Panic]

An additional argument for capital punishment in this thread (mainly Gawd, I think) was a rather strange argument that keeping prisoners in jail for a very long time was cruel; he emphasised "being stuck in tiny boxes". FFS, in western countries, most long-term jail inmates have TVs, exercise periods, relatively comfortable cells, adequate if boring food, and social contact. We're not talking solitary confinement here.

And does this really seem like a suitable punishment for someone who has committed murder?

Try them, convict them, and shoot them. End of problem. If a few innocents die in the process then so be it, because crime rates will decrease if you know that within a month of being convicted of murder, you too will be dead.

[Kristie]

An additional argument for capital punishment in this thread (mainly Gawd, I think) was a rather strange argument that keeping prisoners in jail for a very long time was cruel; he emphasised "being stuck in tiny boxes". FFS, in western countries, most long-term jail inmates have TVs, exercise periods, relatively comfortable cells, adequate if boring food, and social contact. We're not talking solitary confinement here.

And does this really seem like a suitable punishment for someone who has committed murder?

Try them, convict them, and shoot them. End of problem. If a few innocents die in the process then so be it, because crime rates will decrease if you know that within a month of being convicted of murder, you too will be dead.

I don't know if crime rates would drop significantly, but I sure would sleep better at night.