Get ready folks in the U.S - $4.00 a gallon gas by summer!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I've still got soju, which has always been dirt cheap.

And with good reason.

Beause it's made right down the road and they don't waste time with fancy-smancy issues like 'taste' and 'safe for human consumption'.

It doesn't burn consistently either.

[FBM]

I've still got soju, which has always been dirt cheap.

And with good reason.

Beause it's made right down the road and they don't waste time with fancy-smancy issues like 'taste' and 'safe for human consumption'.

It doesn't burn consistently either.

That much is true. After the second bottle, it hardly burns at all.

[Hermit]

Regardless of the price, I still have to drive the same distance to work each day. Higher fuel costs only leave me with less money to spend on the economy and makes oil companies richer.

Also, as the transport costs go up so do the cost of the goods in the shops.

Yep, we're all fuck, even FBM.

How ya figure?

When the transport costs go up, who pays them? Your scavenged fuel comes by ship/train/truck to the stores. If it's bio fuel the farmers use petroleum based chemicals to grow it, even if they don't have tractors to cultivate it.

WASTE veggie oil is priced based on what companies are willing to pay for raw materials from which to make soap, not on how much the veggie oil cost in the first place.

Besides, with your ingenuity you'll probably come up with ever more elegant and efficient workarounds. Home grown beans, for example. If worst comes to worse, I anticipate you getting around like this:

[FBM]

Besides, with your ingenuity you'll probably come up with ever more elegant and efficient workarounds. Home grown beans, for example. If worst comes to worse, I anticipate you getting around like this:

Hmm. Fascinating.

I must look into this.

No, wait. I'm not going to look into THAT...

[macdoc]

and particularly do not use a lighter to illuminate the look in....

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Besides, with your ingenuity you'll probably come up with ever more elegant and efficient workarounds. Home grown beans, for example. If worst comes to worse, I anticipate you getting around like this:

slightly more seriously...one only has to travel to Cuba to see the ingenuity of "getting around" when fossil fuel is very scarce and expensive.....it is remarkable.

[Martok]

Methane is a greenhouse gas.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

I really can't understand why Nu-Labour won't give tax breaks on fuel for hauliers, and start taxing the foreign truckers.

[ED209]

Well my CV joint disintegrated yesterday. I guess I don't have to worry about petrol anymore. Buying a bike when my next student loan payment comes in. It'll come in handy next year anyways, as I'm only a short ride from my university

Sounds like an excerpt from my biography. Chicks dig bikes. The kinda ones that I dig, anyway. Whatever you buy, get a good toolkit and learn how to maintain/repair it yourself. Save yourself big bucks.

I have a toolkit, it's just a really cheap and nasty one

I guess I'm halfway there.

I bought a widdle 125 for £500, it's fine for my 15 mile commute and practically free to run - tax and insurance for it come to less than what owning a motorbike saves me off my car insurance, and it gets about 120mpg+ while my car averages about 23mpg in rush hour

[macdoc]

Yeah I leave the business van parked almost permanently and run the Silverwing for 9 months. Holds 4 bags of groceries under the seat, free parking and 50-60 mpg.

Now if I could just get the insurance companies to figure out I can only drive ONE fucking vehicle at a time....

[Coito ergo sum]

Regardless of the price, I still have to drive the same distance to work each day. Higher fuel costs only leave me with less money to spend on the economy and makes oil companies richer.

Also, as the transport costs go up so do the cost of the goods in the shops.

Yep, we're all fuck, even FBM.

How ya figure?

When the transport costs go up, who pays them? Your scavenged fuel comes by ship/train/truck to the stores. If it's bio fuel the farmers use petroleum based chemicals to grow it, even if they don't have tractors to cultivate it.

WASTE veggie oil is priced based on what companies are willing to pay for raw materials from which to make soap, not on how much the veggie oil cost in the first place.

Wait until the demand for veggie oil, doubles, triples, or quadruples, and then watch economics 101 kick in fairly quickly:

Supply and demand is perhaps one of the most fundamental concepts of economics and it is the backbone of a market economy. Demand refers to how much (quantity) of a product or service is desired by buyers. The quantity demanded is the amount of a product people are willing to buy at a certain price; the relationship between price and quantity demanded is known as the demand relationship. Supply represents how much the market can offer. The quantity supplied refers to the amount of a certain good producers are willing to supply when receiving a certain price. The correlation between price and how much of a good or service is supplied to the market is known as the supply relationship. Price, therefore, is a reflection of supply and demand.

http://www.investopedia.com/university/ ... omics3.asp

Veggie oil costs what it costs now in part because the demand is what it is now. Increase the demand, and that is pressure to increase price.

A good example is the corn ethanol debacle we've gone through. 10 years ago, many people were like, "wow, look at all this corn we can grow here in the US, let's make it into ethanol and then we can burn cleaner fuel for less money!" Well, when massive amounts of corn started being used for ethanol, the price of corn went up because the demand for corn went up, and the total supply could not be increased sufficiently to offset the increased demand. First, E-85 ethanol was a lot cheaper than gasoline, and then it went up and settled in, as I recall, at about 10-15% more than gasoline. So, people got to spend more for an E-85 burning vehicle and pay more for the fuel....yay....

...oh, and more for just about any product made with corn....

[Martok]

First, E-85 ethanol was a lot cheaper than gasoline, and then it went up and settled in, as I recall, at about 10-15% more than gasoline. So, people got to spend more for an E-85 burning vehicle and pay more for the fuel....yay....

Ad to that E85 gets lower fuel economy.