Faith Healing demonstration in British court

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Faith Healing demonstration in British court

Post by Half Cut » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:49 am

Niem Mohammed is accused of conning people out of thousands of pounds.

To defend himself he did a demonstration of faith healing in a British court involving a miniature fire pit on top of a silver table.

Please read about it here

A woman has accused him of threatening to send a evil ghost to attack her if she didn’t pay him £1800 apparently, this you can read here

Enjoy.

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Post by Trolldor » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:53 am

Enjoy? What's there to enjoy? Just another scumbag thinking he's a goddamn magic man.
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Post by JimC » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:54 am

born-again-atheist wrote:Enjoy? What's there to enjoy? Just another scumbag thinking he's a goddamn magic man.
If he gets shoved in prison, we can enjoy...

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Re: Faith Healing demonstration in British court

Post by Pappa » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:58 am

Juries do tend to be very sensible and fair, but in this instance (considering how many people seem to believe woo) who knows what might happen. I'll be interested in the outcome.
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Post by colubridae » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:10 am

I have a well balanced personality. I've got chips on both shoulders

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Post by Pappa » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:36 am

colubridae wrote:This just in....

court 6.

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/onli ... ampton.htm
Ooooo... summing up.....
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Post by Half Cut » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:01 pm

The jury has been told to put aside their scepticism when coming to a verdict.

I find this troubling

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Post by Animavore » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:02 pm

Maybe he can cure my stingy ouchy?
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Post by Pappa » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:09 pm

Half Cut wrote:The jury has been told to put aside their scepticism when coming to a verdict.

I find this troubling
Weird. When I was a juror I was told the exact opposite. Though I suspect the judge has a different meaning of "sceptisism" in mind.
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Post by Half Cut » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:07 am

well he has been found guilty of 11 charges of fraud and given 18 months

see here

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Post by Pappa » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:14 am

Half Cut wrote:well he has been found guilty of 11 charges of fraud and given 18 months

see here
Was he bogus because his particular faith healing didn't work? It seem that's the reason. :what:
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Re: Faith Healing demonstration in British court

Post by JimC » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:19 am

Pappa wrote:
Half Cut wrote:well he has been found guilty of 11 charges of fraud and given 18 months

see here
Was he bogus because his particular faith healing didn't work? It seem that's the reason. :what:
Somehow I doubt that any court in a country with a christian tradition is going to convict on the principle that faith healing in general is intrinsically a load of fraudulent nonsense.

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Re: Faith Healing demonstration in British court

Post by Half Cut » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:28 am

I dont know the exact details but here is more info

I am sad to say that he was convicted on a majority verdict 11-1

however the judge said he was
avaricious and deeply selfish
and
You targeted vulnerable and desperate victims with promises which you knew you could not fulfil.
You did it with bogus advertisements and outlandish guarantees - you used a veneer of holiness to get them to pay large sums of money that they couldn't afford

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Post by colubridae » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:39 am

"You did it with bogus advertisements and outlandish guarantees - you used a veneer of holiness to get them to pay large sums of money that they couldn't afford."

Kind of implies that if he had used a deep amount of holiness it would have been OK
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Re: Faith Healing demonstration in British court

Post by AshtonBlack » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:41 am

colubridae wrote:
"You did it with bogus advertisements and outlandish guarantees - you used a veneer of holiness to get them to pay large sums of money that they couldn't afford."

Kind of implies that if he had used a deep amount of holiness it would have been OK
I read that to mean, you pretended you were holy but you're not. I don't think it implies anything, because he/whe would have to show actual holiness to pass this test.

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