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Post by FBM » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:04 am

I like it! The Raelians say they have a spaceship, don't they? Let's see if we can buy, borrow or steal theirs, grab Obama and a few pounds of cheese each and go! :woot:
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Post by Dasein » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:11 am

yeehaw! We shall not forget the Tapatio sauce, cuz you know them dang people out in space aint gonna have none. :nono:
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Post by Hermit » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:24 am

Rumertron wrote:
Seraph wrote:
The UN Security Council has unanimously adopted a resolution calling for nuclear disarmament, in a session chaired by US President Barack Obama.
Wow. I say WOW! Does this mean Israel, Pakistan, and India will dismantle and junk their nuclear warheads? And Russia, the USA, China, France and the UK will do likewise? Uhm...

I think the key phrase is this:
The resolution calls for further efforts to stop the spread of nuclear arms
That will help justify bombing the living daylights out of Iran and North Korea when the opportunity arises.
If they don't one day someone will use them. If it is relatively limited that will end the madness.
Agreed. All I am saying is that the resolution is not really about disarmament. It is about the proliferation of nuclear weapons, and I approve. Stopping proliferation is the next best thing to disarmament. Come to think of it, a good case can be made that nuclear armaments have actually contributed to the preservation of peace. "Mutually assured destruction" (also known as the aptly ironic acronym "MAD") may well be the primary reason why the cold war between the USA and the Soviet Union has not developed into a shooting war. We got proxy wars instead (Korea, Vietnam, etc).
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Re: Can this man do no wrong?

Post by Rum » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:45 am

Seraph wrote: Agreed. All I am saying is that the resolution is not really about disarmament. It is about the proliferation of nuclear weapons, and I approve. Stopping proliferation is the next best thing to disarmament. Come to think of it, a good case can be made that nuclear armaments have actually contributed to the preservation of peace. "Mutually assured destruction" (also known as the aptly ironic acronym "MAD") may well be the primary reason why the cold war between the USA and the Soviet Union has not developed into a shooting war. We got proxy wars instead (Korea, Vietnam, etc).
I hope you aren't recommending it as a strategy! I grew up in the Cold War era and the fear of imminent global destruction was pretty constant for a lot of us. I was 10 or 11 during the Cuban missile crisis and we did literally believe we were about to be vaporised. It left a sense of dread in the pit of my stomach which returned whenever one of the proxy wars (and there were many) flared up in one part of the world or another.

The present situation is probably less stable, but perceptually, rightly or wrongly I don't ever feel that fear any more.

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Re: Can this man do no wrong?

Post by FBM » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:17 am

Dasein wrote:yeehaw! We shall not forget the Tapatio sauce, cuz you know them dang people out in space aint gonna have none. :nono:
They haven't the last few times I've been! :lay:
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Re: Can this man do no wrong?

Post by Hermit » Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:40 pm

Rumertron wrote:
Seraph wrote: Agreed. All I am saying is that the resolution is not really about disarmament. It is about the proliferation of nuclear weapons, and I approve. Stopping proliferation is the next best thing to disarmament. Come to think of it, a good case can be made that nuclear armaments have actually contributed to the preservation of peace. "Mutually assured destruction" (also known as the aptly ironic acronym "MAD") may well be the primary reason why the cold war between the USA and the Soviet Union has not developed into a shooting war. We got proxy wars instead (Korea, Vietnam, etc).
I hope you aren't recommending it as a strategy! I grew up in the Cold War era and the fear of imminent global destruction was pretty constant for a lot of us. I was 10 or 11 during the Cuban missile crisis and we did literally believe we were about to be vaporised. It left a sense of dread in the pit of my stomach which returned whenever one of the proxy wars (and there were many) flared up in one part of the world or another.
I was almost ten when that crisis occurred and keenly aware of it. The atmosphere throughout Europe was incredibly oppressive. It was mandatory to include atom bomb shelters in new housing in Switzerland. Likewise, a huge underground car park in our city was designed to double as a shelter as well. There were emergency drills at school, and of course Dr. Strangelove's take on the brittleness of peace did nothing for ease of mind. In fact, the situation was so worrisome to my parents that they decided to get as far away from the focus of the conflict as possible, which they did by migrating to Australia. MAD is about as appropriate an acronym as acronyms can get.
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Re: Can this man do no wrong?

Post by Trolldor » Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:55 pm

Personally I think MAD coming to fruiting is the perfect resolution. The second best is disarmament.
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