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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:28 am

Thanks for that.
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Post by rainbow » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:05 am

https://www.blackenterprise.com/white-t ... urs-later/

After all, how is the average Texan homeowner supposed to know the difference between a Mexican rapist and a law-abiding Moroccan?
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:09 am

--so sick and unfortunately common (shootings)
3 PEOPLE KILLED, 2 INJURED IN 3 SHOOTINGS WITHIN 3 HOURS ACROSS HOUSTON OVERNIGHT
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc13.com/ ... /11165928/

...

Or just a few weeks ago:
A man with an AR-15-style rifle ambushed three constable deputies outside a Houston bar early Saturday, killing one and leaving two others wounded, authorities in Texas said.
...

Or yesterday:
HARRIS COUNTY, Texas (KTRK) -- A teen was taken by Life-Flight to the hospital after he was shot while driving his sister home from high school in west Harris County.

Deputies with the Harris County Sheriff's Office said they are investigating the shooting as a road rage incident.
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:32 pm

rainbow wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:05 am
https://www.blackenterprise.com/white-t ... urs-later/

After all, how is the average Texan homeowner supposed to know the difference between a Mexican rapist and a law-abiding Moroccan?
There is a difference?
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Post by rainbow » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:13 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:32 pm
rainbow wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:05 am
https://www.blackenterprise.com/white-t ... urs-later/

After all, how is the average Texan homeowner supposed to know the difference between a Mexican rapist and a law-abiding Moroccan?
There is a difference?
The moustache.

...also Mexicans have more catholic tastes.
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:09 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:36 pm
I don't deny that you have a deeper and more informed insight than I do on this topic, but others who are also more informed than I seem to take a different view than yours.
You should definitely value their opinion over mine. They have far more experience than me. There is also the question of what being wrong here actually means anyway. I could be right, and wrong. Maybe their approach is best despite the current situation. Maybe I've overestimated the harm of misjudging the threat, and misunderestimated ( :biggrin: ) the good that will come from taking the opposite approach... :cheers:
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To me this as a microcosm of the larger conflict. We'll see if the emergent tentatively multicultural, racial equality and gay-trans rights supporting culture of the majority in the US manages to protect itself from the church militant that the Republican/'conservative' element in the US has become.

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Texas House committee to investigate school districts’ books on race and sexuality



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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Oct 30, 2021 11:05 am

FFS!

Texas shocked by killing of motorist who pulled into man’s driveway
Terry Turner’s defense to claim murder of Adil Dghoughi, a Muslim who immigrated to the US from Morocco, falls under rubric of ‘stand your ground’ law

Controversial laws in Texas that can effectively allow homeowners to kill people coming on to their property are to be thrown into the spotlight after the shocking case of a Moroccan man who was shot dead after pulling over in the driveway of a San Antonio-area house, possibly because he was lost.

Adil Dghoughi, 31, was killed earlier this month by the homeowner Terry Turner, who has been charged with murder.

Turner’s lawyers say they will defend their client under the rubric of Texas’s stand-your-ground law and castle doctrine that allows homeowners to use deadly force against someone on their property if the actions are seen as immediately necessary.

Stand-your-ground laws counter the notion that in the event of danger, one must retreat or run away. Rather, a person may “stand their ground” and justifiably defend themselves.

Critics of the laws say they lead to unnecessary deaths and are often a cover for racism. The first stand-your-ground law in the US was enacted in Florida in 2005, with heavy lobbying from the National Rifle Association (NRA). The law came under national scrutiny in the wake of the 2012 shooting of Trayvon Martin, a Black teenager killed by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch person.

The details of the Texas killing have shocked many.
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:01 pm

You're being manipulated. Why would this "shock" Texans anymore than all the other shootings?

...more shocking than the teacher recently shot by a former student

...more than three cops ambushed while making an arrest

...more than the many recent road rage shootings

...more than the most recent school shooting

Gun violence is out of control. Anyone still claiming to be shocked by it is full of shit. Good luck fixing that problem though.
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by laklak » Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:14 pm

I'm shocked! SHOCKED, I tell you!
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:04 pm

Don't forget to sell me something, else waste your shock.
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by JimC » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:16 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:01 pm
You're being manipulated. Why would this "shock" Texans anymore than all the other shootings?

...more shocking than the teacher recently shot by a former student

...more than three cops ambushed while making an arrest

...more than the many recent road rage shootings

...more than the most recent school shooting

Gun violence is out of control. Anyone still claiming to be shocked by it is full of shit. Good luck fixing that problem though.
It is a different sort of shock to the others you mentioned; they are all criminal acts, that will be punished if the offenders are caught. The shock (for people outside the US) here is that there is a legal defence to this shooting which may well let the shooter go scot free...
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:19 pm

All defenses have the potential to let a shooter go free.

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Let's not pretend the Guardian isn't juicing the Muslim/far right conflict here.
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by JimC » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:48 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:19 pm
All defenses have the potential to let a shooter go free.
:roll:

Seriously, your "hold your ground" law is an outlier in any form of legal self-defence argument in the rest of the western world...
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:52 pm

America is well and truly fucked. It is so fucked...
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