The End of NATO

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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:27 pm

Seems so.

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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:32 pm

I don't care if he wrote that himself, the stuff is good and true, even if you pass it through the filter of being part of opposition partisan politics.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Śiva » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:43 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:32 pm
I don't care if he wrote that himself, the stuff is good and true, even if you pass it through the filter of being part of opposition partisan politics.
The complexity of the grammar and diction was spot on. It reads so well, he must be a very talented writer or have someone on staff who is. That's an epic tweet.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:46 pm

indeed it is, I didn't know you could write tweets that long.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:15 pm

You can’t, but a photo of text is allowed.
http://karireport.blogspot.com/ (:_funny_:)
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by laklak » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:29 pm

Don and Vlad are best buds, they're going to sign a non-aggression pact and divide Europe up between them. Here's our new combined national symbol:
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Stop worrying about Brexit and Muslims and whatnot, we'll sort it all out for you soon.

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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:25 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:The idiot is at it again. Just lying lying.

Trump says Germany ‘totally controlled’ by Russia in extraordinary tirade at start of Nato summit
Angela Merkel responds that: 'I've experienced myself a part of Germany controlled by the Soviet Union and I'm very happy today that we are united in freedom as the Federal Republic of Germany'

Some of Mr Trump’s assertions, unsurprisingly, were incorrect. He claimed that “Germany is getting 60 to 70 per cent of their energy from Russia and a new pipeline” - in reality around 20 per cent of German energy use is from oil and gas imports from Russia.
Does he really think people in Europe are listening to him.
And if that is actually the case does it mean the US is controlled by the Arab oil states?
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Rum » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:29 pm

laklak wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:29 pm
Don and Vlad are best buds, they're going to sign a non-aggression pact and divide Europe up between them. Here's our new combined national symbol:

Eagle-Bear.jpg

Stop worrying about Brexit and Muslims and whatnot, we'll sort it all out for you soon.
Now that there's no Commie menace that would make a kind of sense. Give the Ruskies back a good chunk of the old USSR and they'll leave the rest of us alone.

Sadly I don't think 'sense' remotely enters the Orange One's thinking much of the time.

And of course once the Ruskies had the upper hand there's be no stopping them.

I have no doubt at all that military experts in Russia are, more or less as we speak, calculating the reduction of risk of nuclear war if they invaded bits of Europe with the Idiotic One in power.

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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:54 pm

Trump has the same problem as Brexiteers. He does not understand what the EU means. Because the NATO was formed before the EU he cant understand that Germany is not an independent country. It is part of the EU. NATO should be scrapped. All he wants is Europe to buy American LPG for three times the price of Russian gas. His one brain cell is still stuck in the cold war.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Rum » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:03 pm

Well you've given the game away there haven't you as far as Brexit is concerned? Germany is not an 'independent country'. If that is the attitude of the average EU citizen it is no surprise that the average Brit wants nothing to do with it.

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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:24 pm

well, I may not a typical EU citizen, but while I would never be so crass as to say germany is not an independent country, it's a fact that, given the web of treaties it's party to, it can't take unilateral decisions concerning commerce or defense, it has to check with the existing treaties, and possibly take counsel with its partners... then again, it can take the trump way and trample happily over all of its obligations and duties and look surprised and chagrined when there are repercussions.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:32 pm

I'm a citizen of an insignificant little blue-green planet orbiting a small unregarded yellow sun in an uncharted backwater at the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Milky Way.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:41 am

Trump wants to pull out of everything. Soon the UN will be asked to clear out.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by laklak » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:02 am

The UN should be on it's own island, New York City would make a fuck of a lot more money on parking fines. Plus, we could bomb them without unacceptable collateral damage.

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Re: The End of NATO

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:05 am

The world seems to be entering scarier times, with China and Russia joining the US in doing whatever the fuck they want in other people's territory. The UN is totally broken, so I'm not sure how we get back to a more collaborative global situation.
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