Everyone Moving To Colorado Very Slowly?

[piscator]

It will be a state by state thing. You won't even be able to ship it state to state even both states allow it. The DEA will prevent that.

They can do that with weed under the Commerce Clause and Wickard v. Filburn because it's interstate commerce. This is why both Co. and Wa. make it illegal to take weed out of the respective state.

ATF takes the position that one gives up his rights under the 5th, 14th, and 2nd Amendments if he smokes the reefer anywhere in America. Moreover, guns anywhere near the reefer is an instant felony that can add 5 years to any other Federal conviction because the time can be attached consecutively to any other Federal conviction.

[Seth]

What's a "battle-rattle"? Is that toy for man-childs?

You know, showing up at the weed dispensary with an assault rifle and chest rack and grenades and canteens and toilet paper and shit, like goddamn Rambo.

Peace through superior firepower. Thugs in Denver are just the same as thugs in Kabul...if they stick their heads up out of the sewer one should be properly prepared to make sure they never do so again.

Thing was, Seth made that statement in reply to a post of mine about the chickenshit BATF and the US Attorney General, which was made in response to laklak's concerns about what size magazines he can use in his assault rifle when he maybe visits Colorado on a family vacation junket.
As you know, legal magazine size is always a major priority when planning next summer's holiday.

Poor planning promotes piss poor performance. If one is going to visit New York it's a good idea to consider magazine capacity of one's firearms, since those motherfuckers will throw you in jail for having too many rounds in your mag. Advising Laklak of the huge holes in the stupid Colorado law was just a courtesy to a potential tax-paying tourist to keep him out of trouble.

And it wasn't a reply, it was a random notion.

[Seth]

As for carrying 30-round clips on a road trip to score some OTC gange in Denver, why is extended capacity magazines such a major vacation priority?

Thirty rounds isn't "extended capacity" for a semi-auto sporting rifle. In fact it is the single most common magazine capacity available in all calibers and designs. It's actually much more difficult to find a 10 or 20 round mag than it is a 30. I have two 10 round mags that came with two rifles I recently bought, and I have no 20 round mags at present, though I need one for my SIG 556P because when carried in the shoulder rig under my trench coat the 30 round mag makes a lump in the back because it's so long, and I have hundreds of 30 round mags because they are cheap as dirt thanks to the good old US of A military procurement system that buys them by the tens of millions...and then sells entire pallets of them off at DRMO auctions for literally fractions of a penny apiece as surplus. Dealers buy semi-truck loads of them and turn them for $10 to $15 each.

Your tax dollars at work. Thanks for subsidizing my AR magazine needs.

It's good too that you said "magazineS," since one 30 round mag is never enough. My quick-reaction rig carries 6 30 round 5.56 AR mags, two 20 round 7.62 mags for my LaRue OBR semi-automatic DM/Sniper rifle, two 5 round .338 Lapua Magnum mags for my Sako TRG-42 sniper rifle, two six round .308 mags for my take-down Nemesis sniper rifle, 6 rounds of 12 ga #4 buckshot for my shotgun, 4 12 round .45 mags for my H&K USP Tactical pistol (plus one in the gun) and one 8 round .45 mag for my H&K USP Compact (my regular carry gun).

It now has pouches for both the 5.56 and .338 suppressors, a Camelback, holster for the pistol, and a couple of admin pouches for laser rangefinder, Kestrel weather meter and Trimble Recon PDA with Horus ballistic program, along with other minor necessities like signal mirror, flashlight, pen, pencil, etc.

This way I have ammunition for any of the firearms I would have access to for immediate action and can effectively engage targets from zero to 1500 meters. It lives in a neat little nondescript piece of luggage that I toss in the car is a few seconds, along with any or all of the weapons. Weighs a ton, but way less than the 2 Level IV body armor sets that are set up pretty much the same way.

There's no such thing as having too much ammunition. And like weapons, it all just sits there doing nothing unless and until it's called for, so it's no danger to anyone who's not a danger to me or others.

[Seth]

It will be a state by state thing. You won't even be able to ship it state to state even both states allow it. The DEA will prevent that.

They can do that with weed under the Commerce Clause and Wickard v. Filburn because it's interstate commerce. This is why both Co. and Wa. make it illegal to take weed out of the respective state.

Correct. Technically the whole reason they can make pot illegal in the first place is Commerce Clause authority, which is why the Commerce Clause needs to be amended to state that the ONLY role Congress has in regulating commerce "among the several States" is that of being an adjudicatory body that resolves disputes over the movement of persons or goods actually in commerce across state lines where such complaints are brought before Congress by the legislatures of the affected states, and absolutely nothing else.

ATF takes the position that one gives up his rights under the 5th, 14th, and 2nd Amendments if he smokes the reefer anywhere in America. Moreover, guns anywhere near the reefer is an instant felony that can add 5 years to any other Federal conviction because the time can be attached consecutively to any other Federal conviction.

Well, not quite. It's a crime to be a habitual user of, addicted to, or in possession of any illegal drugs and a firearm OR ammunition (so much as one round), but that too is going to go away or be changed to "under the influence of" eventually, when the feds finally accept the fact that they've lost this particular "war on some drugs."

Nor do you really "give up" your rights. Your rights, like all rights, may be reasonably regulated as to the time, place and manner of exercise, but may only be infringed upon if and when the government has a) a compelling need to regulate that exercise; b) regulates the exercise of that right to the minimum practicable degree consistent with that need; and c) using a regulation that actually achieves that legitimate governmental need.

It's going to be impossible for the feds to sustain the absolutist "no guns and pot" stance they have once pot is legalized in more states because the feds will eventually be unable to maintain pot as a prohibited scheduled narcotic like heroin. Eventually they will have to amend the BATFE regulations in ways that only affect those who actually illegally traffic in pot in interstate commerce.

But for now, you're right, and every pot user in Colorado who owns or possesses a gun is committing a federal felony. Not that most of them give a shit.