Kennedy Assassination theory that actually makes some sense

[Svartalf]

Jack Ruby's killing of Oswald screams of ssome kind of cover up, though I have no idea of exactly what.

[Audley Strange]

I looked into this very very deeply years ago. I don't want to imagine the time I wasted doing so, but for all the conspiracy theories one thing stood out. Kennedy was a shit president who by act of assassination became somehow an holy emblem for the baby boomers resentment against the establishment. In the end I think the Camelot myth is probably more important for that nation than the most probable solution that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. The conspiracy seems too vast and implausible to be orchestrated by such odd groups as are claimed to be involved.

[Jason]

I don't know what you all are talking about; and who drank all my beer?

[Seth]

As far as I'm concerned, the Warren Commission was a joke.

The Texas Governor, John Connally, who was shot by the ''magic'' bullet that traveled through Kennedy, stated that he was absolutely certain that he heard the first shot, and was hit by the second one.

Oswald fired two shots. He missed the motorcade entirely with his first shot, which hit the pavement. The second shot hit Kennedy and Connolly. The documentary resolves the "magic bullet" theory using forensic trajectory analysis. The "magic bullet" theory fails to factor in the fact that the seat that Connolly was sitting in (front passenger seat) in that particular limousine was physically LOWER and farther INBOARD than standard seats, a design feature of the presidential limousine. When this displacement of Connollys position is factored in to the trajectory of the second shot, which hit Kennedy in the upper back and exited through his chest, it lines up perfectly with both entry and exit wounds on Connolloy. The real issue is the THIRD shot which hit Kennedy in the back of the skull and blew the front out.

He said that there was no doubt whatsoever. And yet, the Warren Commission concluded that he was wrong, and that he was hit by the first shot. Even though other witnesses also testified that they saw the first shot bounce off the pavement, making sparks.
It's pretty obvious that Warren et al were just trying to make the facts fit a story, and ignoring the ones that didn't.

Yup.

I do wonder about the killing of Oswald by Jack Ruby now. If the secret service had been thinking of covering up their own cock-up, Oswald was a problem. He could later admit to firing only two bullets, and missing with the first.

Yup. Or Ruby could just have been an enraged Kennedy fan.

I can't see how they could persuade Jack Ruby to do it, though. But it was very convenient for them, if they were covering up an accidental shooting of a president.

Yes, it was. But since nobody at the time imagined that there was a cover-up going on, Ruby's acts would appear to be nothing more than what he said they were, an act of vengeance.

[mistermack]

If I had to pick one out of all the theories of what happened, this would be the one.
The ''accepted'' version, by the Warren commission, is actually accepted by very few people. Only one in five of Americans believe it. And there are so many problems with it, I can't regard it as number one.

The exploding bullet and the smell of gun smoke put it out of bounds, till someone can explain them. The wrong size entry wound is almost as bad, but I can just about accept that even a top medical professional might get it wrong, even under such important circumstances.

This version matches the facts better than anything out there, so it's my own accepted version, till something better comes along. I recommend watching the video if it comes your way, or gets on youtube. I'd like to see an inquiry into it with the surviving secret service officers interviewed under oath. ( If there are any ).

[DaveD]

Kennedy was shot by climate change deniers, I thought everyone knew that.

[Audley Strange]

Kennedy was shot by climate change deniers, I thought everyone knew that.

Kennedy was actually Andy Kaufman and so was Lee Harvey Oswald.

[MrJonno]

Kennedy was shot by the same people who crreated a fake iceberg and then torpedoed the Titanic

[klr]

Kennedy was shot by climate change deniers, I thought everyone knew that.

That grassy knoll must be pretty crowded.

[rainbow]

Kennedy was shot by climate change deniers, I thought everyone knew that.

That grassy knoll must be pretty crowded.

That is what they want you to believe.

[Tyrannical]

So basically,
Oswald misses first shot, that gets everyone's attention. SS agents draw guns.
Second shot hits motorcade guys.
SS agent accidentally shoots Kennedy in back of head in the chaos. Maybe gun was drawn and got bumped.

As for conspiracy, well no one wants to hear SS agent accidentally kills president. Bad for morale. Martyr for freedom, or work place accident victim? Obvious why the Kennedy's would keep quiet, no coin or ship would be named after him. Which happened quite quickly afterwards

I suppose what makes this theory plausible is that the reason for the conspiracy is logical given the circumstances, and would explain a possible wide involvement of people willing to keep quiet. The truth was in no one's best interest.

[mistermack]

That's about it. It's the first story that has ever made sense to me.

The problems that I have with it are very small.
As klr said at the start, it would take a big unlucky fluke to hit the President in the head. But shit happens. The two cars were practically bumper-to-bumper, so the President was only about twenty feet away. So it's not an unbelievable fluke.

Another problem is that several witnesses said that they heard three shots, not two, coming from the depository window.
But they may have heard the first two, and assumed that the third was from the same spot. It's a fairly natural thing to assume.In fact, the peoples description of the shots actually supports this theory as well. Over 80% of the people said that they heard one shot, then a pause, with the last two shots close together.
It would be very hard to fire the last two shots close together, with that rifle.

Of course, Oswald would have been the big fly in the ointment. They couldn't possibly rely on him keeping his mouth shut.
So either they shut it, or they were just lucky. Maybe they didn't decide on a full cover-up, till Jack Ruby conveniently did his stuff.

If this IS what happened, I wonder when it actually dawned on them that their own man shot the President?
Would he have known himself? He would know that his gun went off, but did he know that he hit the President?
He might not have even been looking at the President at that instant. He might have been looking around behind, as he brought the gun around to face the rear. If that's the case, you wouldn't immediately assume that it was your bullet that hit the President. It would seem more likely that the sniper hit him. After all, the sniper was aiming to kill, not HIckey.

And the motive is big, to cover it up. On all sides.

[Seth]

According to the documentary, the agent picked up the AR-15, stood up and then fell back into his seat as the car accelerated. The speculation is that, being a new agent using a weapon only recently added to the arsenal, he flipped off the safety with his thumb as he stood and had his finger on the trigger when he fell backwards, causing him to pull the trigger, which I find entirely plausible. The strict rule of keeping your booger hook off the bang switch until your sights are on target was not as ubiquitous as it is today and people relied on safeties far too much way back when. It was likely pure random chance that the rifle was aimed at the President at that instant.

[Seth]

That's about it. It's the first story that has ever made sense to me.

The problems that I have with it are very small.
As klr said at the start, it would take a big unlucky fluke to hit the President in the head. But shit happens. The two cars were practically bumper-to-bumper, so the President was only about twenty feet away. So it's not an unbelievable fluke.

Another problem is that several witnesses said that they heard three shots, not two, coming from the depository window.
But they may have heard the first two, and assumed that the third was from the same spot. It's a fairly natural thing to assume.In fact, the peoples description of the shots actually supports this theory as well. Over 80% of the people said that they heard one shot, then a pause, with the last two shots close together.
It would be very hard to fire the last two shots close together, with that rifle.

One of the significant bits of evidence that didn't make it into the Warren Commission report was that nearly 40 people reported smelling burnt gunpowder at ground level near the motorcade, immediately after the third shot. That would not occur if Oswald fired all three shots from the book depository.

[FBM]

Kennedy was shot by climate change deniers, I thought everyone knew that.

Kennedy was actually Andy Kaufman and so was Lee Harvey Oswald.

Maybe, but your theory has yet to account for Miley Cyrus.