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N. Korea finally gets one aloft?

Post by FBM » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:53 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20690338

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12 December 2012 Last updated at 03:39 GMT

North Korea defies warnings to launch rocket


North Korea's rocket launch was keenly watched in the South
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North Korea says it has successfully launched its rocket in defiance of international warnings.

Reports suggest the rocket, launched at 09:49 local time (00:49 GMT), followed its planned trajectory, with stages falling in expected areas. North Korea says a satellite has been put in orbit.

North Korea's neighbours and the US have called the launch a cover for long-range missile development.

South Korea condemned it, while Tokyo urged the UN Security Council to meet.

The launch comes a week ahead of the South Korean presidential election and roughly a year after the death of leader Kim Jong-il, on 17 December 2011.
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The three-stage rocket was launched from a site on North Korea's west coast.

"The launch of the second version of our Kwangmyongsong-3 satellite from the Sohae Space Centre... on December 12 was successful," state news agency KCNA said. "The satellite has entered the orbit as planned."

The rocket had been scheduled to pass between the Korean peninsula and China, with a second stage coming down off the Philippines.
A Japanese soldier runs toward a Patriot Advanced Capability-3 interceptor on southern Japanese island of Ishigaki on 12 December 2012 Japan said the rocket passed over its territory, but it did not shoot it down

South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported that the first stage of the rocket had come down in the Yellow Sea. Japan said more debris landed east of the Philippines.

The Japanese government, which put its armed forces on alert ahead of the launch, said the rocket had passed over parts of Okinawa prefecture, south of the Japanese mainland.

"The missile that North Korea calls a satellite passed over Okinawa around 10:01. We launched no interception," a government statement quoted by AFP news agency said.

Japan had threatened to shoot down any debris which infringed on its territory, deploying naval vessels and land-based missile interceptors.

Its top government spokesman called the launch "extremely regrettable" and something that Japan "cannot tolerate".

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, meanwhile, called an emergency meeting of his top advisors and his foreign minister said the government strongly condemned the launch.

A spokesman for Seoul's defence ministry said assessment was needed to determine whether the launch had indeed been a success.

"There are many factors to determine whether it was successful or not ... we need more extensive analysis. We need more consultation with the United States since our own capability is limited," Kim Min-seok told journalists.

The US state department said it had "noted" the launch and would comment later.
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Seoul, Washington and other nations had urged North Korea not to go ahead with the launch, warning that it would constitute a test of long-range missile technology banned under UN resolutions.

The US and its allies say the rocket launches represent banned missile tests because the basic technology is the same.

North Korea is believed to be working on the development of a long-range missile capable of reaching the west coast of the US mainland.

It has not previously successfully launched a three-stage rocket. Its most recent test, in April 2012, ended in failure, when the rocket flew for only a few minutes before exploding and crashing into the sea west of the Korean peninsula.

The closed communist nation has also carried out two nuclear tests, in 2006 and 2009. International talks on ending its nuclear ambitions have been stalled for several years.
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Post by Tero » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:28 am

Well, they gotta long way to go to hit first San Francisco, then Salt Lake City, finally Washington. I think they should team up with Cuba and send it from there.

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Post by FBM » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:34 am

There's a lot of missile defense between here and there, too. It's not even really a threat, if you ask me. Except for the threat of them making us shoot their missile down. If it were to be a nuke, well, I guess it would probably go down over water, anyway.
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Post by Cormac » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:08 am

FBM wrote:There's a lot of missile defense between here and there, too. It's not even really a threat, if you ask me. Except for the threat of them making us shoot their missile down. If it were to be a nuke, well, I guess it would probably go down over water, anyway.

IT is a threat to South Korea, Japan, and other neighbours though, many of whom are US partners.
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Post by FBM » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:12 am

Yep. That it is. But they don't need any longer range missiles than they already have to attack SK or Japan. Their only reason for developing missiles with that range - assuming you don't buy their satellite story - is to threaten the US mainland and use that as political leverage.
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Post by Cormac » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:19 am

FBM wrote:Yep. That it is. But they don't need any longer range missiles than they already have to attack SK or Japan. Their only reason for developing missiles with that range - assuming you don't buy their satellite story - is to threaten the US mainland and use that as political leverage.

Ultimately, yep.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:19 pm

Tero wrote:Well, they gotta long way to go to hit first San Francisco, then Salt Lake City, finally Washington. I think they should team up with Cuba and send it from there.
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Post by rasetsu » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:41 pm

Japan said the rocket passed over its territory, but it did not shoot it down
Well, that's a damn crying shame.



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Post by Jason » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:31 pm

Why is it when Iran develops NPPs or NK launches a satellite it's a disguised weapons program? :ask:

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Re: N. Korea finally gets one aloft?

Post by FBM » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:27 am

Because of all the aggressive rhetoric that spray non-stop, maybe. Because they've got about as much practical use for an orbiting satellite as I do for a '69 Mustang carburetor rebuild kit. And they've already tested nukes. I'm not saying they don't have a right to do whatever testing they like, but they are very vocal and adamant about their hostility to the US.
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