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Post by cronus » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:59 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20382699

French protests against gay marriage bill

Tens of thousands of people have protested in France against plans to legalise same-sex marriage and allow gay couples to adopt.

Police said at least 70,000 took to the streets in Paris; there were other demonstrations in the cities of Lyon, Toulouse and Marseille.

They included Catholic groups and other backers of traditional family rights.

President Francois Hollande has promised to change French law so that gay and lesbian couples can marry.

Despite opposition from more than 1,000 mayors and the Catholic Church, his socialist government approved a bill on the issue earlier this month which will be debated by parliament in January.

France already allows civil unions between same-sex couples, but extending their rights was a campaign pledge of Mr Hollande before he was elected in May.

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Post by SteveB » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:08 am

Yah, the French are a bit slow. Thought it was already legal there.
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Post by JimC » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:12 am

Fuck off, the French religious right...

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Post by SteveB » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:16 am

It's been legal in Canada for almost a decade now.
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Post by JimC » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:21 am

Nibbler wrote:It's been legal in Canada for almost a decade now.
We're a bit slow in Oz. Same-sex civil unions, and generally OK for adoption, but not the marriage thing. Politicians scared of a back-lash from the family-first conservatives, I guess...
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Post by SteveB » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:25 am

And you have a lesbian PM or something? That's odd.


Not the lesbian part, the not having legalization part. :leave:


Nvm, atheist PM! Even better! Internet-looking up is good. :teef:
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Post by JimC » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:30 am

Nibbler wrote:And you have a lesbian PM or something? That's odd.


Not the lesbian part, the not having legalization part. :leave:


Nvm, atheist PM! Even better! Internet-looking up is good. :teef:
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Post by Blind groper » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:37 am

We got a self professed agnostic in NZ as PM.
John Key is an interesting man to have as national leader. Soft spoken, always with a smile on his dial. He has a reputation as a 'nice guy.' He goes to church occasionally, but only to please others, and has said he does not believe in an afterlife, but thinks religion should be about living a good life. He has been referred to as a teflon leader, since no shit has managed to stick to him, as yet.
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:46 am

Five or six more years at this rate and the politicians should be able to openly ridicule and marginalise the bigoted mommy killing kiddy diddling sacks of shit.
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Post by JimC » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:49 am

Robert_S wrote:Five or six more years at this rate and the politicians should be able to openly ridicule and marginalise the bigoted mommy killing kiddy diddling sacks of shit.
Like Eire and the Vatican, which no one even 5 years ago would have ever imagined...

There is a Royal Commission into child abuse in Oz starting, which I hope will tear the Catholic Church a new one...
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Post by Rum » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:08 am

When one goes to France the separation of Church and state is very clear. Very clear. However you don't have to scratch very deep to find pretty hard core Catholicism lurking. Personally I have always been impressed by the way they are (generally) kept well apart.

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Rum wrote:When one goes to France the separation of Church and state is very clear. Very clear. However you don't have to scratch very deep to find pretty hard core Catholicism lurking. Personally I have always been impressed by the way they are (generally) kept well apart.
Can we count that as one of the positive legacies of the revolution?
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Post by Rum » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:37 am

JimC wrote:
Rum wrote:When one goes to France the separation of Church and state is very clear. Very clear. However you don't have to scratch very deep to find pretty hard core Catholicism lurking. Personally I have always been impressed by the way they are (generally) kept well apart.
Can we count that as one of the positive legacies of the revolution?
I don't know the history well enough to be absolutely sure, but that is certainly my impression.

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Post by Cormac » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Rum wrote:
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Rum wrote:When one goes to France the separation of Church and state is very clear. Very clear. However you don't have to scratch very deep to find pretty hard core Catholicism lurking. Personally I have always been impressed by the way they are (generally) kept well apart.
Can we count that as one of the positive legacies of the revolution?
I don't know the history well enough to be absolutely sure, but that is certainly my impression.

The church was the architect of its own defeat on that occasion.
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Post by Svartalf » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:54 pm

JimC wrote:
Rum wrote:When one goes to France the separation of Church and state is very clear. Very clear. However you don't have to scratch very deep to find pretty hard core Catholicism lurking. Personally I have always been impressed by the way they are (generally) kept well apart.
Can we count that as one of the positive legacies of the revolution?
it's a lot more recent than that
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