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Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:34 pm

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:53 pm

Bush 41 endorsed Romney and sang the Kenny Rogers line, "Know when to fold 'em" to the rest of the field...

Paul Ryan endorsed Romney too, as has, I think Marco Rubio.

Fucking Santorum needs to bow out.

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Post by Ian » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:17 pm

Santorum is like Ron Paul in that he's running as a matter of his principles. I doubt even he expected to do as well as he has. He'll probably only bow out if he's guaranteed something like a key speech at the convention, or a spot in the cabinet (he'd make a dreamy HHS Secretary, dontcha think?), otherwise he'll just keep officially campaigning and gaining some delegates until he gets to act like a power broker at the convention. Either way, he won't just fade away anytime soon.

Gingrich's "campaign" is now probably no more than Newt lobbying to become Secretary of State in a Romney administration.

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Post by Tyrannical » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:33 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Bush 41 endorsed Romney and sang the Kenny Rogers line, "Know when to fold 'em" to the rest of the field...

Paul Ryan endorsed Romney too, as has, I think Marco Rubio.

Fucking Santorum needs to bow out.
Why? Mittens probably can't win outright by delegate count unless everyone else drops out. Hell, Ron Paul could even win that hippie dope smoking State of California further complicating things. I know of some Paul supporters that are or trying to be "official bound delegates" to Mittens/Santorum/Newt delegates that plan on abstaining in the initial vote.
An open convention is good for anyone but Romney. It might not be the big negative some people think because it keeps the spotlight on Republicans as they reach a popular consensus.

:thinks: Maybe I should vie to be a State delegate and go to the national convention in Tampa. I suspect fireworks, and I can stir up a crowd with fiery rhetoric when so inclined.

:fp: I forgot the most important thing. Dropping out / endorsing another candidate may "free" your delegates from being bound to vote. But delegates in many States that have primaried / caucused have not been elected yet.
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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Eriku » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:08 pm

This has probably been asked in the thread but I'ma do it anyway:

You fellas who have Republican leanings; do any of the candidates make you think; "yes, that'll do nicely!"

I should specify... I mean for reasons other than entertainment value.

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Post by Warren Dew » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:07 pm

Eriku wrote:You fellas who have Republican leanings; do any of the candidates make you think; "yes, that'll do nicely!"
Romney, Gingrich, and Paul. Not saying they'd be perfect, but in all three cases I could vote for them, and not just vote against Obama.

Most of the Republican candidates I disliked have dropped out already, Santorum being the obvious exception.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:16 pm

Eriku wrote:This has probably been asked in the thread but I'ma do it anyway:

You fellas who have Republican leanings; do any of the candidates make you think; "yes, that'll do nicely!"

I should specify... I mean for reasons other than entertainment value.
Mitt Romney will be fine. He has executive government experience in Massachusetts, which is like being President of a small country (without the foreign policy aspect). He is intelligent, disciplined, and has business acumen. I am comfortable with his level of religiousness, and I have found Mormons generally to be fairly private regarding their faith. They do go around door to door sometimes, but they are very soft-sell about their religion. If you say "I would rather not talk about it," they say "O.k., fine." I find nothing particularly objectionable about Mitt, although I must say that he seems a bit stiff and robotic at times. But, I'm not looking for sizzle.

I do not like Santorum at all. He is too self-righteous and wears his religion on his sleeve He seems too absolutist to be a good President.

Newt Gingrich would be, I think, a far better President than people give him credit for. His personal life was held against him, and that is unfortunate. He may well have arguably deserved it, because of some hypocrisy on that point, but I think his intelligence and experience are very good. The achievements of the 1994 Congress are, while not perfect, hard to match. They didn't really balance the budget, but with only a relatively small amount of creative accounting they made it look balanced. They seemed to be focused and all-business back then, and the result was one of the most prosperous times in American history. Mistakes were made, of course, resulting in what we have now. But, again, perhaps with that experience, Newt would be able to help foster a regrouping. He is also big on the space industry, and manned space exploration, and I feel that is essential to technological growth, a great way to help the economy and foster scientific opportunities for young Americans, and to restore a sense of pride to our nation.

Ron Paul is very smart and knowledgeable on the economy. However, his Presidency would be a dismal failure because he would be undermined by both Republicans and Democrats, and his desires are too radical to achieve in 4 or even 8 years. It's just not practical. He also can often sound like a nut.

I would have liked Jon Huntsman, but he's out this time.

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Post by mistermack » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:31 pm

Mit Romney is hiding where his money, and the campaign money is coming from.
Why?
Because the Mormons have decided to buy themselves a president.

How fuckin gullible are the US voters, that they can be so easily influenced by the spending of money?
But big respect to their involvement. Our morons don't even bother to vote, generally.
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:32 pm

Hey mackieboy, don't diss the merkins, buying the presidency is an old and venerated habit there.
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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:02 pm

mistermack wrote:Mit Romney is hiding where his money, and the campaign money is coming from.
What isn't he disclosing?
mistermack wrote: Why?
Because the Mormons have decided to buy themselves a president.
That's ridiculous, and is equivalent to someone saying, if Joe Leiberman were running, that "the Jews have decided to buy themselves a President." If you feel comfortable making such a statement, then that is up to you.

Romney has to abide by the same laws that Obama and everyone else have to abide by. Obama hasn't done anything extra.
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How fuckin gullible are the US voters, that they can be so easily influenced by the spending of money?
Oh, yes, the Merkin voter is much more gullible than the Yerpeein voter. Of course! Add that to the master list of ways that the US is inferior to Yerupp and elsewhere. Politicians with money, of course, do not sway the savvy Yerpeein, Canuck or Ozzy voter. That would never happen.
mistermack wrote: But big respect to their involvement. Our morons don't even bother to vote, generally.
At least they're not swayed by the big money. Here, we're all just walking automatons, taking instructions from FauxNews and salivating over the latest Smith & Wessen production. We collect 'em like Pokemon here. Pokegun, we call 'em. Wait, hang on, I've been dying to shoot someone today. Be right back...

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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:16 am

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/p ... santo.html
Mitt Romney won the straw poll at Washington's precinct caucuses March 3, but the fight over who will claim the state's 43 delegates to the Republican national convention is ongoing.

The latest twist: Rick Santorum's campaign is teaming up with Ron Paul supporters in an effort to deny Romney delegates, apparently at the direction of Santorum himself.

The strategy has alarmed some top GOP officials who fear it will crack party unity and lead to a nasty scene at the state convention in a couple months. It has also angered some grassroots Santorum supporters.

In an email to Santorum supporters Thursday, state volunteer coordinator Graden Neal laid out the plan:

"Last night, the Washington State Rick Santorum leadership had a conference call with a special guest, the Senator himself. We were surprised and honored that Rick Santorum himself came on our call to help give us direction. And the Senator didn't mince words. In order for us to win the nomination in Tampa in August, we must deny Romney delegates to that convention. If the frontrunner, Romney receives 1,144 delegates before the national convention, it is all over for our campaign. That is the reason why the Senator himself directed us to coalition with the Ron Paul delegates to deny Romney any state delegates." [Emphasis added]
What's interesting is Paul had allied with Mittens supporters in some caucus States to deny Santorum delegates.
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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:07 pm

Rick Santorum is out --- http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/0 ... ouncement/

That should do it. Mitt is it.

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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:13 pm

Dammitt, we already had a pope kisser, now there's a coloured, and now they are going to nominate a mormon?
I swear, I'll live to see one of the christ killing jews in the oval office.
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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Ian » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:34 pm

Svartalf wrote:Dammitt, we already had a pope kisser, now there's a coloured, and now they are going to nominate a mormon?
I swear, I'll live to see one of the christ killing jews in the oval office.
The Supreme Court is now 1/3 Jewish. And 2/3 Catholic.

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Post by Svartalf » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:38 pm

Given the Jewish and Catholic traditions of rules parsing, I'd guess those groups are better at extracting the rules to follow from the legal text than any damn proddies.
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