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by Warren Dew » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:53 am
Seabass wrote:Actually, I suspect that if we had more political parties, a liberal (in the European sense) party would probably be the most popular.
We have one. It's called the Libertarian party. Granted our current one tends to be a bit extreme in its liberalism in the classical sense.
Registered Democrats still dominate the political playing field with more than 42 million voters, compared to 30 million Republicans and 24 million independents.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/s ... 52171688/1
According to most polls that I've seen, independents tend to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Moreover, many socially liberal/fiscally conservative voters feel trapped into voting for the major parties, since a vote for a third party is considered a "wasted vote".
If you take most independents, combine them with all the socially liberal, fiscally conservative Democrats and Republicans, I think you're looking at a pretty big voting bloc.
I don't think the independents are any more homogeneous than the Democrats and Republicans. 24 million out of 96 million might be pretty accurate for the number of socially liberal, fiscally conservative voters there are. Still a big voting bloc.
Alas, dislodging the major parties from power is easier said than done.
Yes. Working withint one of the major parties to move it is rather difficult too.
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by JimC » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:55 am
You should have a Labour Party...
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by FBM » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:56 am
JimC wrote:You should have a Labour Party...
Sounds like a lot of work.
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by Audley Strange » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:58 am
I think I'd be considered a Wobbly, for about 10 minutes.
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by Warren Dew » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:04 am
JimC wrote:You should have a Labour Party...
We have two: old labor = Democrats, new labor = Republicans.
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by JimC » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:05 am
Warren Dew wrote:JimC wrote:You should have a Labour Party...
We have two: old labor = Democrats, new labor = Republicans.
The reason that you're in so much trouble over there is that you've taken the "you" out of labour...
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by Strontium Dog » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:08 am
redunderthebed wrote:Communist.
Deepest sympathies
You can get help for that nowadays, though.
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by Strontium Dog » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:08 am
JimC wrote:You should have a Labour Party...
Surely the American economy is fucked enough already.
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by Warren Dew » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:20 am
JimC wrote:Warren Dew wrote:JimC wrote:You should have a Labour Party...
We have two: old labor = Democrats, new labor = Republicans.
The reason that you're in so much trouble over there is that you've taken the "you" out of labour...
Either that, or because we don't have a Conservative party.
The monarchy and nobility would fix everything, I'm sure.
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by redunderthebed » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:38 am
Strontium Dog wrote:JimC wrote:You should have a Labour Party...
Surely the American economy is fucked enough already.
Funny our labor party led us through relatively unscathed through global economic crisis.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:30 pm
redunderthebed wrote:Strontium Dog wrote:JimC wrote:You should have a Labour Party...
Surely the American economy is fucked enough already.
Funny our labor party led us through relatively unscathed through global economic crisis.
Nobody else has an economy based on 'roos.
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by JimC » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:15 am
Gawdzilla wrote:redunderthebed wrote:Strontium Dog wrote:JimC wrote:You should have a Labour Party...
Surely the American economy is fucked enough already.
Funny our labor party led us through relatively unscathed through global economic crisis.
Nobody else has an economy based on 'roos.
In reality, it's an economy based on flogging coal and iron to the Chinese. Works until that bubble bursts...
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by Warren Dew » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:39 pm
JimC wrote:In reality, it's an economy based on flogging coal and iron to the Chinese. Works until that bubble bursts...
So when does their coal and iron run out? Presumably that's pretty predictable.
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