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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Tero » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:56 pm

Yeah I heard Bream on his last US tour, he was about 80. Slightly rusty by then.
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Tero » Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:29 am

Vivaldi wrote hundreds of concertos but only two for trumpet. Most of his concertos were passed on to clients all over Europe or his monthly quota to an orphanage for girls. Girls did not play trumpet, only bassoon and oboe and an early clarinet. Also, trumpets were more of a guild job in town. The client is unknown.

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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:14 pm

Ever come across the violoncello da spalls (cello of the arm) before?



I enjoyed the instrument's robust, earthy tone.
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Hermit » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:59 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
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Ever come across the violoncello da spalls (cello of the arm) before?



I enjoyed the instrument's robust, earthy tone.
The robust tone might have something to do with it being recorded in a repurposed gasometer, 53.8 metres in diameter and 14.5 in height.

Image

The acoustics of that giant steel drum beefs the sound up even more so than a tiled bathroom that can make one's feeble voice sound like Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau's or Diana Damrau's.

As for this particular performance, I found it somewhat stodgy. Perhaps Sergey Malov was determined to play the suite exactly as written down in the score. This is not what Bach, and any other composers of the baroque period meant performers to do.
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:25 am

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As for this particular performance, I found it somewhat stodgy. Perhaps Sergey Malov was determined to play the suite exactly as written down in the score. This is not what Bach, and any other composers of the baroque period meant performers to do.
It's interesting what one takes from these things isn't it(?) I found this rendition nuanced and dynamic with it's freer interpretation of phrasing and colour. I went to a Yo-Yo Ma version straight after and, by comparison, found that a bit staid and formal; even rather stolid in places. Ma is technically brilliant of course, but a bit dry despite the performative emotionalism he goes for. For these suites I invariably lean towards the less overtly romantic sound of the Baroque cello and a more direct approach to the notes on the page.


(performance starts @ c.4m)
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:35 pm

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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Hermit » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:51 am

Murdering music.

The South Korean boy just wanted to have some fun two.



Then a massacre ensued as others joined in. Among them were Laura Lāce of Riga, Latvia



and French born Tina Setkic.




I quite enjoy listening to all of them. Them, the Swingle Singers, Jacques Loussier, Wendy Carlos, Leopold Stokowski and any others who added twists to original scores.
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Tero » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:06 pm

Here is the violin version in modern style
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Tero » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:57 pm

My favorite 4 Season recordings are this set with Podger


and just slightly better, on modern violin, Jensen. You have to jump to the end for the 3rd movement


That youtube has a weird hollow sound. It's not on the CD.
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:56 pm

Dutch recorder players are the best recorder players...



Here she is on more familiar ground...

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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Tero » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:19 am

Another one of these. The video shows the striking contrast of when she is solo, with just cello backing, and when multiple strings play
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:30 pm

What a racket!
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Tero » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:16 am

Larsson 1908 –1986
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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Tero » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:34 am

I was looking at some symphonists to compare to Sibelius, whose major works I've pretty much memorized as far as structure and what comes next. I really don't care for the majority of symphonic pieces by Haydn (how many times do you write pom po dom?) and Mozart except for one and then his early short pieces titled symphonies.

Found a thing I saved on my hard drive years ago, Mendelssohn 99. It was a download for a couple of bucks. I prefer this to Brahms and Tchaikovsky. All but Symphony 1 are good. Even the violin concerto is pretty good, and I don't like most violin concertos past the baroque.

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Re: Classical Music.

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:57 am

What about Bruckner? Symphonies are big and blousey in the Sibelius vein.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Bruckner

No 5 is a good place to start.
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