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by Sean Hayden » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:58 am
Austria, home of the 55-year-old gun maker Glock, accounts for many of the handguns brought into the US, at some 1.2 million in 2017. (Austria is also one of the rare European countries in which citizens are permitted to buy firearms for self defense.) Croatia, Italy, and Germany are also among the top five handgun exporters to America. Gun makers like Glock and the Swiss-German firm Sig Sauer have production facilities in the US as well.
Glock’s pistols are used by about 65% of US police departments, but the company also lobbies in favor of the American public’s access to firearms. Glock says it gave more than $100,000 to the National Rifle Association and its programs in 2016. Italy’s gun-making Beretta family is a big contributor to the gun lobby group.
https://qz.com/1222436/a-third-of-guns- ... trol-laws/
This statistic shows the number of imported firearms into the U.S. in 2016, by country. In 2016, a total of 1,322,694 firearms were imported into the U.S. from Austria.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/215 ... y-country/
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by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:32 am
Yeah, we do quite well in materials and precision engineering over here.
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by Sean Hayden » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:40 am
Exporting death for profit's an old favorite too.
the company also lobbies in favor of the American public’s access to firearms. Glock says it gave more than $100,000 to the National Rifle Association and its programs in 2016
Thoughts, prayers, and money, obviously.
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by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:42 am
It's not personal - just business.
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by devogue » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:35 am
Well, if you fuckers are stupid enough to buy them...
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by Svartalf » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:55 am
well, there's no reason to buy a gun if it's going to malfunction at the time you need it, so of course the discerning customer goes for a quality implement.
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by Feck » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:49 pm
Svartalf wrote:well, there's no reason to buy a gun if it's going to malfunction at the time you need it, so of course the discerning customer goes for a quality implement.
Why ? Assuming that it's seriously unlikely that a gun will ever save your life......What are the statistical odds that the one time you need a gun it will be the one time it fails ?
also if effectiveness and reliability where the only criteria Then a fucking 9mm Glock wouldn't even be on the sodding list .
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by Scot Dutchy » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:32 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:It's not personal - just business.
Exactly. We sell and you want to buy. Simple. Should Austria act as America's conscious? No.
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by Sean Hayden » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:13 pm
Two of the NRA’s biggest financial contributors are foreign-owned firearms companies from Italy — Beretta ($1 million to $5 million level) and Benelli ($500,000 to $1 million level).
https://www.nationalmemo.com/nras-top-5 ... ry-donors/
It's possible that without the NRA, people would be protesting outside of Glock, SIG Sauer and Freedom Group — the makers of the guns used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre — and dragging the CEOs in front of cameras and Congress. That is certainly what happened to tobacco executives when their products continued killing people.
Notoriously, tobacco executives even attempted to form their own version of the NRA in 1993, seeing the inherent benefit to the industry that such an effort would have. Philip Morris bankrolled the National Smokers Alliance, a group that never quite had the groundswell of support the industry wanted.
I didn't know that about the tobacco industry.
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by Tero » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:26 pm
Feck wrote:Svartalf wrote:well, there's no reason to buy a gun if it's going to malfunction at the time you need it, so of course the discerning customer goes for a quality implement.
Why ? Assuming that it's seriously unlikely that a gun will ever save your life......What are the statistical odds that the one time you need a gun it will be the one time it fails ?
also if effectiveness and reliability where the only criteria Then a fucking 9mm Glock wouldn't even be on the sodding list .
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by Rum » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:35 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:Brian Peacock wrote:It's not personal - just business.
Exactly. We sell and you want to buy. Simple. Should Austria act as America's conscious? No.
They sent us coke and hamburgers - look how many people they have killed. Serves the buggers right I say!

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by Sean Hayden » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:15 pm
Oh little sister.
Britain is now the second biggest arms dealer in the world
Exclusive: Two-thirds of UK weapons have been sold to Middle Eastern countries since 2010
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by laklak » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:17 pm
When dealing with firearms, you can do a lot worse than Austrian or German. I have one of these, Walther P38 9mm manufactured in 1944

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And one of these, 1917 Styer M95, 8x54mm.

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Both in excellent condition. I use the P38 regularly, and occasionally the M95 (because the ammo is scarce and expensive, and it kicks like a pissed off mule).
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by Seabass » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:21 pm
To be fair, many things are only wrong when the Americans do it.
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by Tero » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:44 pm
That’s right! Trump can’t talk to Kim. We have to send Merkel!
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