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Gun immunity law

Post by Tero » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:47 am

“I couldn’t believe it when Senator Sanders said the parents of the Sandy Hook children did not deserve their day in court, largely because he voted for the bill that gave special protection — immunity from liability — to the gun makers and sellers. I was in the Senate at the time, so was Barack Obama. I voted against it. Barack Obama voted against it. Bernie Sanders voted for it.”
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Re: Gun immunity law

Post by JimC » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:57 am

Bernie is a secret Sethian! :shock:
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:06 am

Ffs. Gun makers aren't liable for criminals. If guns are protected in your constitution, then by common sense so should gun makers and sellers as long as they operate within the law.
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Re: Gun immunity law

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:15 am

Indeed, but isn't there a public health issue that deserves some regulatory oversight, like with the manufacture and sale of cigarettes - the purveyors of which cannot market their products to children for example? It seems reasonable to make it offence to sell a gun to you know you shouldn't, just like it is a criminal offence to sell cigarettes to children.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:01 am

Sure. Make it law. If manufacturers and sellers comply with the law then it is wrong to sue them for doing so. Same goes for any business.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:35 am

Just a bunch of anti-gun imaginative lawyers trying to get the courts to "outlaw" something instead of the proper legal way of laws.
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Re: Gun immunity law

Post by Tero » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:17 pm

Well it's absolutely right that the gun sellers were not resposible for getting the guns in the hands of the Sandy Hook killer. His mom did. We need to regulate guns better. The mom did not need all those guns.

But thegun makers need to be regulated somehow. After Sandy Hook, ever more guns were sold. We could make their advertisement and sales pitch focus on safer guns. All guns are made ready to shoot. Grandma sleeps with gun under pillow and 4 year old dies.

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Post by laklak » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:31 pm

Every time there's a mass shooting gun sales spike, because immediately afterwards the anti-gunners start screaming about banning them. People stock up. Obama has been the greatest gun salesman ever.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:40 pm

laklak wrote:Every time there's a mass shooting gun sales spike, because immediately afterwards the anti-gunners start screaming about banning them. People stock up. Obama has been the greatest gun salesman ever.
Oh no, that means moar guns, therefore we need moar guns, which means... Oh no, that means moar guns, therefore we need moar guns....

I can't see the gun and ammo manufacturers having a problem with that, and if inappropriate and criminal gun use drives sales then they have an economic interest in people using guns criminally and inappropriately - so it makes perfect sense to lobby for a law which absolves them from even the threat of prosecution for putting guns in the hands of people they know shouldn't have them.
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Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:15 pm

Only a matter of time before there are calls to sue pen manufacturers because their products were used by malfeasants to sign the appropriate forms.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:39 pm

Them ink suppliers aren't going to get away scotch-free either.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:59 pm

Just imagine if the far right used the same legal concept. Mass arrests of polticians and activists for allowing muslim refugees into the country. You could sue their groups financially and jail their members as accessories to rape and murder.
Judges that allow under human rights laws criminal immigrants to remain would be easy targets. And once those judges are replaced......
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:44 pm

Then you should arrest all the politicians and activist for all rapes and murdurs, being as they now seem to be responsible for allowing that to happen.
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Re: Gun immunity law

Post by laklak » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:33 pm

Screw arrest. Lynch the fuckers!
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