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Post by Blind groper » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:27 am

Why do you have the second amendment?

The answer to that one is easy. Because the American government is about as corrupt as it is possible to be, and the gun makers have lots of money for bribes.

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Post by Tero » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:39 am

Well then, there is no choice. Ban all hand guns since we cannot keep track of them.
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Post by Seth » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:59 am

Tero wrote:Well then, there is no choice. Ban all hand guns since we cannot keep track of them.
You're not allowed or supposed to keep track of them precisely so that you cannot ban and confiscate them. It's not an error in the Constitution, it's a deliberate and specific feature included so that wannabe despots will forever be unable to identify, through registration lists, who has guns. The inability of a wannabe despot to know who has guns, and the fact that so many hundreds of millions of people have them is, and was intended to be a serious impediment and deterrent to exactly the sort of evil despotism that you are calling for.

That's the way we like it, and that's how it's going to stay. Try and take our arms and we will use them for the specific purpose contemplated by the Framers, which is to render you and your ilk incapable of ever attempting to do so again.
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Post by JimC » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:12 am

Unfortunately, it also stops you from potentially identifying crazy people with lots of guns who want to be mass murderers...
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Post by Tero » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:13 am

The constitution/amendment do not ban registering all guns.

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Post by Seth » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:24 am

Tero wrote:The constitution/amendment do not ban registering all guns.
Quite right. The People, particularly the ones who own guns, do so.
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Post by Tero » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:48 am

Very funny. I'm sending Hillary to register yours.

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Post by JimC » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:07 am

I always worry about those who capitalise "The People"... :?
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Post by Seth » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:18 am

Tero wrote:Very funny. I'm sending Hillary to register yours.
Oh please, pretty please, do...just make sure it's her and not one of her jackbooted thugs or her heavily-armed Secret Service agents (who loathe and despise her because she's such a cunt to them), it has to be her, all by her lonesome. That would solve SO many problems of the day.
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Post by Seth » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:18 am

JimC wrote:I always worry about those who capitalise "The People"... :?
Why?
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Post by JimC » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:32 am

Seth wrote:
JimC wrote:I always worry about those who capitalise "The People"... :?
Why?
They are usually Stalinist extremist marxist totalitarians...
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Post by Seth » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:36 am

A day late and a dollar short. I hope Europe get fucked in the ass by the Muslim invasion BECAUSE they banned guns.

Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns
Many 'now wish they had a 2nd Amendment'
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Austrians are arming themselves at record rates in an effort to defend their households against feared attacks from Muslim invaders.

Tens of thousands of Muslim “refugees” have poured into Austria from Hungary and Slovenia in recent months on their way to Germany and Sweden, two wealthy European countries that have laid out the welcome mat for migrants. More than a million will end up in Germany alone by the end of this year, according to estimates from the German government.

Obtaining a working firearm and ammunition in Germany, Britain, Denmark and the Netherlands is practically impossible for the average citizen. Germany, for instance, requires a psychological evaluation, the purchase of liability insurance and verifiable compliance with strict firearms storage and safety rules. And self-defense is not even a valid reason to purchase a gun in these countries.

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The laws in Austria, while still strict, are a bit less overbearing.

A Czech TV report confirms that long guns – shotguns and rifles – have been flying off the shelves in Austria, and Austrians who haven’t already purchased a gun may not have a chance to get one for some time. They’re all sold out.

And those arming themselves are primarily women.

“If anyone wants to buy a long gun in Austria right now, too bad for them,” the Czech newscaster says. “All of them are currently sold out.”

He cites the Austrian news outlet Trioler Tageszeitung as the source of his report.

“We cannot complain about lack of demand,” Stephen Mayer, a gun merchant, told Trioler Tageszeitung.

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He claims the stock has been sold out for the last three weeks and that demand is being fueled by fears generated by social changes.

“People want to protect themselves,” Mayer said. “Nonetheless, the most common purchasers of arms are primarily Austrian women.”

They are also buying pepper sprays, which Mayer said are in big demand among those who can’t get a gun.

Alan Gottlieb, executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation, said he recently returned from a gun rights event in Europe, where he sensed a change in attitude toward firearms.

“I just returned from a gun rights meeting in Belgium, and I can attest that all over Europe people now want the means to defend themselves,” Gottlieb told WND. “Self-defense is no longer a dirty word. In countries like Austria, where it is still legal to own a firearm, gun sales are at record levels. I can tell you first-hand that people in Europe now wish they had a Second Amendment.”

More potential new customers are entering the market than ever before, according to the Czech report.

Watch clip of Czech TV report on Austrians rushing to arm themselves:

Until the refugees started flooding Europe, it was mostly hunters and sport shooters who purchased firearms. Now, people are seeking weapons for self-defense because they are worried about their personal safety. Most have never used a gun before.

So-called "projectile weapons" are available in Austria under two classifications, C and D, which are rifles and shotguns. Every adult Austrian is legally able to apply for a weapons permit but must disclose to the government their reason for wanting to own a gun.

The Czech station cited an interview with a sociologist and an Austrian journalist, both of whom said the weapons purchases were based on unfounded fears about foreign migrants.

'Something is very wrong here'

The Viennese sociologist, identified only as Mr. Gertler, said no such fears about migrants should ever be published by any Austrian news outlet.

A journalist named Wittinger said "something is very wrong here" if Austrians are buying guns to protect themselves against migrants.

"Shotguns will not, after all, solve any immediate problems, quite the contrary," he said.

The Czech TV station then reported that Islamists are promising: "We will cut the heads off unbelieving dogs even in Europe."

"Look forward to it, it's coming soon!" the Czech newscaster said.

ISIS-trained jihadists are now returning as European citizens or they are trying to infiltrate as migrants. In one propaganda video an ISIS operative informs his comrades back home in Germany to slit the throats of unbelievers in Germany, Czech TV reports.

"Overall, the ministry of interior stated that Germany is in the cross-hairs of Islamic terrorists but that he does not have any indications of specific threats," he said.

Bracing for another Islamic invasion

The Czech site reflects awareness of a major event in Western history, said Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America.

"Polish King John Sobieski defeated the Muslim invaders at the gates of Vienna in 1683. Another Muslim invasion is underway and Austrians are alarmed, hence their run on gun stores," Pratt told WND. "Women are right to be concerned in view of the Muslim view of women that they are good for raping and little else."

The Czech TV report cited the Arab Spring as the root cause for the flood of Muslim migrants into Europe.

"More and more, the whole thing is turning into the situation that we will experience the much-touted Arab spring from very close up – right here at home," the reporter said. "What's more, many European are alienating large part of their own populace with unfortunate social and multicultural politics, merciless removal of children, unfair seizures and trading on traditional European values and with policies which are usually less friendly toward conservative and traditional native inhabitants and leans toward that portion of inhabitants who have little trouble with globalization and nonchalant liberalization, removal of traditions and Islamization. Yet we will not be able to rely on it, that portion of (population) once the Arab Spring comes here. And that will probably be, as they say, closing the barn after the cows are gone."
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Post by Tero » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:45 am

Austrians are arming themselves at record rates in an effort to defend their households against feared attacks from Muslim invaders.
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Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Our case for survival before it's too late

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Post by Tero » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:07 pm

Colorado allows idiot/unstable man to own multiple weapons
CNN affiliate KRDO reported that a heavily armed man shot and killed a bicyclist and two women.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/col ... ct-n455131
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/co ... in-custody

this is what you get when you ban registering guns. Men 20-40 are in the group that usually cracks up for some random reason. The final straw.
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Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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Re: Idiots

Post by Collector1337 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:17 pm

Blind groper wrote:Why do you have the second amendment?

The answer to that one is easy. Because the American government is about as corrupt as it is possible to be, and the gun makers have lots of money for bribes.
You honestly believe it's some corporate/government conspiracy to get people to spend money on guns?

You think all of these "gun makers" even existed when the 2nd Amendment was written?

Your cluelessness is absolutely fucking hilarious.
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