Pin number

[Blind groper]

A recent proposal is to design guns so that a user has to punch in a 4 digit pin number before it would fire. What a great idea! The delay would cut both murders and suicides dramatically.

I know damn well, of course, that it could never be implemented, because of the outcry and opposition. I can just hear Seth saying it would prevent "self defense". Of course it would. "Self defense" with guns is a major cause of mega murders. Stopping it would be great.

Incidentally, I have just got back from an overseas holiday, in which I spent ten days in the USA (New York and Hawaii). It is always disconcerting when in that murderous nation to wonder which of the people I pass on the street are packing a tool for committing murder.

[JimC]

Personal Identification Number number...

[Hermit]

Perfect match for the ATM machine.

[rainbow]

A recent proposal is to design guns so that a user has to punch in a 4 digit pin number before it would fire. What a great idea! The delay would cut both murders and suicides dramatically.

I know damn well, of course, that it could never be implemented, because of the outcry and opposition. I can just hear Seth saying it would prevent "self defense". Of course it would. "Self defense" with guns is a major cause of mega murders. Stopping it would be great.

Incidentally, I have just got back from an overseas holiday, in which I spent ten days in the USA (New York and Hawaii). It is always disconcerting when in that murderous nation to wonder which of the people I pass on the street are packing a tool for committing murder.

I can't say I saw anyone besides cops carrying in New York. I believe they have different rules in different states. Strangely enough they confiscated our umbrella, which could've been used to fight off other umbrella wielding mass murderers.

[LucidFlight]

We should recommend this to the NRA association.

[mistermack]

Good idea.

Another good idea would be for every sale of bullets would have to have an individual serial number stamped on every bullet. And have severe penalties for anybody found in possession of unstamped ammunition.

[rainbow]

Good idea.

Another good idea would be for every sale of bullets would have to have an individual serial number stamped on every bullet. And have severe penalties for anybody found in possession of unstamped ammunition.

Even better, don't sell bullets and make it illegal to keep them.

The gun nuts can still have their penis substitutes, but can't shoot anyone.

[Seth]

A recent proposal is to design guns so that a user has to punch in a 4 digit pin number before it would fire. What a great idea! The delay would cut both murders and suicides dramatically.

No it wouldn't. It would increase murders and have zero effect (at best) on suicides. Obviously people intent on committing suicide, even with a gun, will have plenty of time to punch in a PIN, and murders would increase because all such a plan would do is slow down the ability of a victim to put his gun into play because, of course, the criminal, even if he does have to put in a PIN, will do so BEFORE beginning his assault, leaving the victim, who has perhaps fractions of a second to respond, at a disadvantage.

I know damn well, of course, that it could never be implemented, because of the outcry and opposition. I can just hear Seth saying it would prevent "self defense". Of course it would. "Self defense" with guns is a major cause of mega murders. Stopping it would be great.

And how, exactly is self defense with guns a "major cause of mega murders?" Let me guess: You're going to come up with some stupid-ass claim that deranged mass murderers who think that they are "defending themselves" against something qualifies as "self defense." It doesn't, so don't be an ass-hat and make such a stupid-ass claim.

Incidentally, I have just got back from an overseas holiday, in which I spent ten days in the USA (New York and Hawaii). It is always disconcerting when in that murderous nation to wonder which of the people I pass on the street are packing a tool for committing murder.

Obviously you're lying because it didn't concern you enough for you to cancel your visit to the United States. I sort of figured you were lying the whole time, but this proves it beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Oh, and also, you STILL don't know which of the people you pass on the street are packing a tool for committing murder, even in your home country. And therein lies the point of lawful concealed carry. If one of those people who IS carrying such a tool, and decides to kill YOU, you're just completely fucked and you're going to die pissing and shitting your pants and screaming for someone who is ALSO carrying such a "tool" to save you.

I, on the other hand, am going to shoot any fucker who tries to kill me, no matter what tool he might have, and if I die, I die with a smoking gun, an empty chamber and magazine and defensive wounds on the front of my body, whereas you're going to die with shit in your pants and wounds wherever the guy with the "tool" chooses to put them, or in your back as you try to run away.

[Seth]

A recent proposal is to design guns so that a user has to punch in a 4 digit pin number before it would fire. What a great idea! The delay would cut both murders and suicides dramatically.

I know damn well, of course, that it could never be implemented, because of the outcry and opposition. I can just hear Seth saying it would prevent "self defense". Of course it would. "Self defense" with guns is a major cause of mega murders. Stopping it would be great.

Incidentally, I have just got back from an overseas holiday, in which I spent ten days in the USA (New York and Hawaii). It is always disconcerting when in that murderous nation to wonder which of the people I pass on the street are packing a tool for committing murder.

I can't say I saw anyone besides cops carrying in New York.

That's why they call it "concealed carry."

I believe they have different rules in different states.

Yes, they do. Some states are "open carry," although open carry is relatively unusual and generally not a good idea tactically. Doing so makes you an identifiable target for an armed criminal, and the whole point of concealed carry is for criminals not to know who is armed, thus deterring them from criminality on the premise that the next grandma they try to rob will shoot them dead, which happens.

Strangely enough they confiscated our umbrella, which could've been used to fight off other umbrella wielding mass murderers.

Who, exactly, confiscated your umbrella? TSA? Did you try to carry it on the aircraft? That was a dumb idea because yes, an umbrella CAN be effectively used as a weapon...against many other types of weapons. Just ask John Steed.

[Seth]

Good idea.

Another good idea would be for every sale of bullets would have to have an individual serial number stamped on every bullet. And have severe penalties for anybody found in possession of unstamped ammunition.

You mean like the severe penalties already in place for ANY person (criminal) disqualified from possessing a firearm to be in possession of any ammunition, even a single round, "unstamped" or not?

Once again you propose something that will have zero effect on criminals or gun crime. Of course that's pretty standard for your ilk.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

John Steed famously never carried a gun. An umbrella was deemed more gentlemanly.

[Seth]

We should recommend this to the NRA association.

The "NRA association?"

Really?

Did you know that "NRA" stands for "National Rifle Association?" I don't think there is a National Rifle Association Association, but you're welcome to recommend this to them...if you can find them.

As for "microstamping" and every other harebrained anti-gun notion like this, the NRA is well aware of such bullshit and spends a good deal of well-spent donor funds pointing out to people with actual brains just how incredibly stupid such ideas are.

[Seth]

John Steed famously never carried a gun. An umbrella was deemed more gentlemanly.

His choice to make. Not his authority to impose on anyone else however. I'd use an umbrella or a cane if necessary, but I'd still carry a gun because sometimes bringing an umbrella to a gun fight is a bad idea.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

John Steed famously never carried a gun. An umbrella was deemed more gentlemanly.

His choice to make. Not his authority to impose on anyone else however. I'd use an umbrella or a cane if necessary, but I'd still carry a gun because sometimes bringing an umbrella to a gun fight is a bad idea.

Celebrity Death-Match - John Steed v The Penguin!

[LucidFlight]

We should recommend this to the NRA association.

The "NRA association?"

Really?

Did you know that "NRA" stands for "National Rifle Association?" I don't think there is a National Rifle Association Association, but you're welcome to recommend this to them...if you can find them.

Sorry. I should have checked the OED dictionary before I posted that.