Seth wrote: rEvolutionist wrote:
Um, Mr Dictionary...
not subject to being taken away from or given away by the possessor.
It's "unalienable" not "inalienable," but yes, that's what it means. What's your point?
Actually, inalienable is the more correct term. But otherwise, they mean exactly the same thing.
What's the point? Read the fucking definition. "NOT SUBJECTED TO BEING TAKEN AWAY". Try getting on a plane with a gun. You won't be able to. So it's not inalienable, as you don't have the right to bear arms on plane.
The right is not taken away, it is merely regulated with respect to the time, place and manner of its exercise. If the right were "taken away" then, as a product of boarding a commercial aircraft, one's right to keep and bear arms would forever be denied.
That's not what happens.
You can "get on a plane with a gun" anywhere in the US, all you have to do is unload it, case it, show the case to DHS, stow it in your checked luggage and board the plane.
And when you get off the plane, you still have your rights and your gun. That's called "reasonable regulation of the time, place and manner of exercising the right to keep and bear arms authorized by a compelling government need to so regulate and consisting of the minimum necessary regulation that actually achieves the compelling and legitimate government purpose for so regulating."
You, like every other anti-gun nut, try to make the specious connection between a reasonable and necessary regulation of the time, place and manner of exercising the right and an alleged but unfactual power of the government to unconstrained plenary actions that go beyond reasonable and necessary regulation and are factually nothing more than an outright denial of the right.
You wrongly think that because the government has certain carefully limited powers to reasonably regulate the time, place and manner of the exercise of the right consistent with both constitutional restrictions on government power and a compelling need to so regulate, government therefore has the power to do whatever the hell it pleases, or whatever the hell the tyrannical majority tells it to do, specifically including outright bans on firearms.
Well, that's simply not the case and never has been.
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