Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Of course things would have gone differently.
Well, there you go...
There is just no way of knowing whether that would have been for the better or worse.
And it would have been "worse" how, exactly?
Your rosy world where guns make everything better simply doesn't exist.
Except I've never made that claim.
Had he been expecting a likely armed response, he would no doubt have been armed too
My point exactly. He got to do whatever the fuck he wanted precisely because he knew nobody would have a gun with which to put an end to him immediately. The Charlie Hebdo killers knew exactly the same thing.
- and he would have had the advantage of knowing in advance that he was a threat that day.
Probably. Just as the Charlie Hebdo killers did.
It would have been far more likely that the security guards found themselves on the wrong end of a bullet.
In an armed society there are always more armed law-abiding citizens than there are armed criminals. While one security guard might have been shot, or two, or three, or four, as in the Charlie Hebdo attack, the chances that the attack will be successful or will be able to continue during escape, as in the Charlie Hebdo attack, drops substantially the more armed non-terrorists there are in the immediate area. Every gun in the hands of a law-abiding citizen willing to take action to stop such attacks improves the odds of preventing the attack and improves the odds of reducing the body count.
You are missing the big picture here.
No, you are.
He gained access through establishing a credible front as a genuine delivery driver. His papers and reason for being there were in order.
So what?
The guards had no reason to suspect him, no reason to search his van and certainly no reason to open fire!
Poor tactical and strategic decision making by the administration and the guards does not diminish the benefits of armed persons outnumbering armed attackers.
He intended to die in a conflagration when he rammed the van into gas containers - that he didn't is down to his incompetence.
Indeed. And had armed guards at a critical facility been properly trained and armed, and had the security protocols been properly designed and followed, he never would have made it through the gate, and if he did he wouldn't have made it 50 meters inside the gate. And had his first victim been armed, he might not have made it anywhere near the plant.
There's a reason that Arab terrorists don't try to shoot up schools in Israel anymore. It's because civilians lawfully armed with machine guns and pistols volunteer to guard schools and they kill anybody who tries to attack a school.
You'd think the government and owners of a critical factory would be at least as smart as them iggorant Joos. Evidently the French are even more stupid than I thought they were.
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