Vigilante

[laklak]

Back in the day I caught an ass full of rock salt sneaking into somebody's barn. Different days.

[Seth]

I have a friend who tells this hilarious story about being in a gang of high school kids trying to steal gas from the garage of someone they knew. It didn't work out too good for him and his pals either, but they just got their asses beat.

Ah for the good old days when adults were in charge of children and dispensed justice and correction as necessary without worrying about getting sued by some negligent parent or arrested for taking a strap to a thieving child, which is what they need, and immediately, so that like a dog they associate the correction with the misbehavior and don't get to escape the consequences of their actions.

[NuclMan]

I have a friend who tells this hilarious story about being in a gang of high school kids trying to steal gas from the garage of someone they knew. It didn't work out too good for him and his pals either, but they just got their asses beat.

Ah for the good old days when adults were in charge of children and dispensed justice abuse and correction antagonsim as necessary without worrying about getting sued by some negligent parent or arrested for taking a strap to a thieving child bully-culture was generally condoned, which is what they need, and immediately, so that like a dog they associate the correction with the misbehavior and don't get to escape the consequences of their actions abuser, and continue the undesired behaviour when the abuser is absent.

[Seth]

I have a friend who tells this hilarious story about being in a gang of high school kids trying to steal gas from the garage of someone they knew. It didn't work out too good for him and his pals either, but they just got their asses beat.

Ah for the good old days when adults were in charge of children and dispensed justice abuse and correction antagonsim as necessary without worrying about getting sued by some negligent parent or arrested for taking a strap to a thieving child bully-culture was generally condoned, which is what they need, and immediately, so that like a dog they associate the correction with the misbehavior and don't get to escape the consequences of their actions abuser, and continue the undesired behaviour when the abuser is absent.

Bleeding-heart liberal... '

Judicious use of the strap has been effective for thousands of years in curbing teenage malfeasance.

[NuclMan]

I have a friend who tells this hilarious story about being in a gang of high school kids trying to steal gas from the garage of someone they knew. It didn't work out too good for him and his pals either, but they just got their asses beat.

Ah for the good old days when adults were in charge of children and dispensed justice abuse and correction antagonsim as necessary without worrying about getting sued by some negligent parent or arrested for taking a strap to a thieving child bully-culture was generally condoned, which is what they need, and immediately, so that like a dog they associate the correction with the misbehavior and don't get to escape the consequences of their actions abuser, and continue the undesired behaviour when the abuser is absent.

Bleeding-heart liberal... '

Judicious use of the strap has been effective for thousands of years in curbing teenage malfeasance.

Knucle-dragging liberterrorist...

Keep thinking that continuing to abuse people and animals is effective for fuck all.

[Seth]

I have a friend who tells this hilarious story about being in a gang of high school kids trying to steal gas from the garage of someone they knew. It didn't work out too good for him and his pals either, but they just got their asses beat.

Ah for the good old days when adults were in charge of children and dispensed justice abuse and correction antagonsim as necessary without worrying about getting sued by some negligent parent or arrested for taking a strap to a thieving child bully-culture was generally condoned, which is what they need, and immediately, so that like a dog they associate the correction with the misbehavior and don't get to escape the consequences of their actions abuser, and continue the undesired behaviour when the abuser is absent.

Bleeding-heart liberal... '

Judicious use of the strap has been effective for thousands of years in curbing teenage malfeasance.

Knucle-dragging liberterrorist...

Keep thinking that continuing to abuse people and animals is effective for fuck all.

Worked for thousands of years and humanity survived and prospered. Things didn't start going to shit until we decided that children don't need discipline. Now they think they own the place and want to go all "Carousel" on our ancient asses.

I know I remember the one time my dad whaled the tar out of me, and why. And he was right to do so.

Then there was the time he caught me sticking paperclips in the wall socket at age 4... He bought an old-fashioned crank telephone, made me touch the wires and cranked the handle. I got a healthy (harmless) shock out of it. He made me do it three times. Then he told me what was in the box was "little electricity" and what was in the wall sockets was "big electricity."

I learned an important and indelible lesson that's saved my life more than once when dealing with high voltage.

If any parent did that today, they'd be in jail immediately (and several are for using dog shock collars for similar purposes) because the fuckwit liberal bleeding hearts of the world (like you) care more about the poor child's delicate psyche (pshaw) than they do the kid's life...which is why they won't teach their kids about guns, which is why most kids killed in gun accidents know nothing about guns, whereas kids who grow up in households where guns are an everyday part of life and who are taught gun safety from the time they can talk use firearms, and have used them safely for hundreds of years.

Don't be an idiot, teach your children well.

[NuclMan]

and burning witches was effective at ridding the world of broompilots.

Parents today explain that even relatively minor shocks can be serious without subjecting them to it. The only thing you learned that lesson was that you could be safely shocked; then again maybe the old man told you precisely the amperage and current the phone delivered, and you've avoided everything not in that safe margin ever since

Parents today are held to a different standard and rightly so.

[Seth]

and burning witches was effective at ridding the world of broompilots.

Non sequitur.

Parents today explain that even relatively minor shocks can be serious without subjecting them to it. The only thing you learned that lesson was that you could be safely shocked; then again maybe the old man told you precisely the amperage and current the phone delivered, and you've avoided everything not in that safe margin ever since

Parents today are held to a different standard and rightly so.

Don't be a dunce. You shouldn't try to tell me what I learned from the event because you weren't there.

What I learned was to stop putting paperclips in the wall sockets and to be careful when using electricity, which lead to a life of doing things like making sure electrical cords are not frayed or pinched, because that can cause a fire like the one that killed a NYC firefighter the other day. It was an appropriate and harmless lesson that had enduring positive effects, as was the thrashing I got for showing off with an antique Civil War paper cartridge filled with black powder. I had a friend over and we wanted to know if antique black powder would still burn. I'd tampered with modern smokeless powder a couple of times without anyone finding out (my dad reloaded shotgun shells) and was curious about the Civil War powder, so my friend and I hid behind a rock near where my dad was working on our new ranch house, poured the powder into a pile and applied a match.

What I didn't understand is that black powder is not smokeless. Not even a little. So when a giant ball of smoke rose from behind the boulder my dad noticed and, after receiving a long lecture about both safety and the value of antiques, he gave me a perfectly appropriate thrashing to emphasize the seriousness of my misbehavior.

Children do better with limits and they sometimes need lessons in breaching those limits that have painful but harmless consequences so that they learn that misbehavior can be dangerous and painful. It saves them from greater injury in many cases, and when used in moderation and applied coldly and rationally, as opposed to in the heat of anger, is extremely effective at instilling long-remembered lessons that kids need to learn.

This silly notion that you can lecture every child every time and get better results than the occasional spanking or other empirical punishment is pure bullshit, as any actual parent can tell you. Used judiciously, such discipline does the child no harm and is highly beneficial in the long run because it can keep the child from being gravely injured or killed for being thoughtless and careless.

Clearly your daddy should have spanked you more often, it might have instilled some common sense.

[piscator]

The Crips street gang was originally created in order to form a neighbourhood watch and clear the streets of marauding gangs

Founder and former leader of the Crips gang stated in an interview from his his San Quentin Cell that the purpose for creating the gang initially was to eliminate all street gangs and create a “bull force” neighbourhood watch. Williams said: “We started out—at least my intent was to, in a sense, address all of the so-called neighbouring gangs in the area and to put, in a sense—I thought ‘I can cleanse the neighbourhood of all these, you know, marauding gangs.’ But I was totally wrong. And eventually, we morphed into the monster we were addressing.”


Stanley “Tookie” Williams

Co-Founder Raymond Washington himself has stated that he founded the Crips not with the intention of eliminating other gangs, but to create a force powerful enough to protect local black people from racism, corruption and brutality at the hands of the police.
Both founding members of the Crips were seventeen at the time which would have had a significant effect on their somewhat naive intention of forming a gang that would unite the street crews and bring peace to the streets of LA. After all the group initiated new members through fist fights and recruited smaller crews by challenging gang leaders to fist fights.

Raymond Washington was killed in 1979 and was buried on his birth day.

Stanley Williams was given the lethal injection in 2005 charged with First Degree Murder. During his time in prison awaiting the death sentence he authored several books, including anti-gang and anti-violence literature and children’s books.

[LucidFlight]

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
— Harvey Dent

[piscator]

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
— Harvey Dent

Tookie was the original Dark Knight...

[NuclMan]

and burning witches was effective at ridding the world of broompilots.

Non sequitur.

Just because you don't follow, that doesn't make it a non-seq. All you've made is a fallacious appeal to tradition with some anecdotal side-salad, like below.

Don't be a dunce. You shouldn't try to tell me what I learned from the event because you weren't there.

What I learned was to stop putting paperclips in the wall sockets and to be careful when using electricity, which lead to a life of doing things like making sure electrical cords are not frayed or pinched, because that can cause a fire like the one that killed a NYC firefighter the other day. It was an appropriate and harmless lesson that had enduring positive effects, as was the thrashing I got for showing off with an antique Civil War paper cartridge filled with black powder. I had a friend over and we wanted to know if antique black powder would still burn. I'd tampered with modern smokeless powder a couple of times without anyone finding out (my dad reloaded shotgun shells) and was curious about the Civil War powder, so my friend and I hid behind a rock near where my dad was working on our new ranch house, poured the powder into a pile and applied a match.

What I didn't understand is that black powder is not smokeless. Not even a little. So when a giant ball of smoke rose from behind the boulder my dad noticed and, after receiving a long lecture about both safety and the value of antiques, he gave me a perfectly appropriate thrashing to emphasize the seriousness of my misbehavior.

Children do better with limits and they sometimes need lessons in breaching those limits that have painful but harmless consequences so that they learn that misbehavior can be dangerous and painful. It saves them from greater injury in many cases, and when used in moderation and applied coldly and rationally, as opposed to in the heat of anger, is extremely effective at instilling long-remembered lessons that kids need to learn.

This silly notion that you can lecture every child every time and get better results than the occasional spanking or other empirical punishment is pure bullshit, as any actual parent can tell you. Used judiciously, such discipline does the child no harm and is highly beneficial in the long run because it can keep the child from being gravely injured or killed for being thoughtless and careless.

Clearly your daddy should have spanked you more often, it might have instilled some common sense.

Any actual parent can tell me eh? Funny I don't hear or see that anymore aside from the internet - mabye that's because i didn't grow up in a community that condoned/promoted physical abuse as an educational tool.

[Seth]

Any actual parent can tell me eh? Funny I don't hear or see that anymore aside from the internet - mabye that's because i didn't grow up in a community that condoned/promoted physical abuse as an educational tool.

Typical panty-waist liberal rationalization.

Operant conditioning works for mice, it works for kids too.

[Gallstones]

When a Father ‘Walked in’ and Saw What He Allegedly Was Doing With His Child, He Left Him Unconscious in a ‘Bloody Puddle’: ‘I Didn’t Proceed to Ask Him Any Questions’ 07.18.14

A Florida father who said he walked in on an 18-year-old man molesting his son Friday beat the individual unconscious and left him in a pool of blood.

“I just walked in on a grown man molesting—,” the 35-year-old unidentified father told a 911 dispatcher, according to the Daytona Beach News-Journal. “And I got him in a bloody puddle for you officer.”
...
Asked by the dispatcher if he had used any weapons, the father responded, “My foot and my fist.”

“I didn’t proceed to ask him any questions sir,” he said. “He is nice and knocked out on the floor for you. I drug him out to the living room.”

“He stood up and his pants were around his ankles and nothing else needed to be said,” the father added to the dispatcher. “I did whatever I got a right to do except I didn’t kill him.”

The father then advised the dispatcher to deploy paramedics.

“Send an ambulance. He is going to need one,” he said.
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Daytona Beach police chief Mike Chitwood said the father was not charged with a crime.

“Dad was acting like a dad. I don’t see anything we should charge the dad with,” Chitwood said.