Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

[charlou]

The squirrel's dependents might disagree.

Actually, no .. they'll prolly just disagree.

This is either a joke or evidence of anthropomorphization.

You don't think they'll prolly just disagree?

[charlou]

Gallstones, do you think everyone who kills things for sport eats the non-trophy bits?

[Gallstones]

Some people like killing things.
So?

Is that really your attitude?

I consider it a statement of fact--some people like killing things. It is not unnatural for any human to like to hunt and kill what it hunts.

Why should that natural drive be suppressed?
Please give evidence that it is "wrong".

Some things need to be killed.

Yeah, tigers, elephants, manatees, swift foxes...

If any of those were injured or ill to the extent that they were suffering and not going to survive then of course.
If any of those are immediately dangerous to a person or the environment that other animals depend on, then of course.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Best thing for me to do here is just walk away.

[charlou]

Some people like killing things.
So?

Is that really your attitude?

I consider it a statement of fact--some people like killing things. It is not unnatural for any human to like to hunt and kill what it hunts.

Why should that natural drive be suppressed?
Please give evidence that it is "wrong".

Some things need to be killed.

Yeah, tigers, elephants, manatees, swift foxes...

If any of those were injured or ill to the extent that they were suffering and not going to survive then of course.
If any of those are immediately dangerous to a person or the environment that other animals depend on, then of course.

That ... concern for animal or human welfare ... isn't what sport killing concerns itself with, though, is it.

[Gallstones]

The squirrel's dependents might disagree.

Actually, no .. they'll prolly just disagree.

This is either a joke or evidence of anthropomorphization.

You don't think they'll prolly just disagree?

Die is what every living thing will do.

[charlou]

The squirrel's dependents might disagree.

Actually, no .. they'll prolly just disagree.

This is either a joke or evidence of anthropomorphization.

You don't think they'll prolly just disagree?

Die is what every living thing will do.

Why the facepalm .. Do you think you're telling me something I don't know.

[Gallstones]

Gallstones, do you think everyone who kills things for sport eats the non-trophy bits?

It doesn't matter what the person who pulls the trigger takes from it. The meat will be eaten by someone, it isn't wasted.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Gallstones, do you think everyone who kills things for sport eats the non-trophy bits?

It doesn't matter what the person who pulls the trigger takes from it. The meat will be eaten by someone, it isn't wasted.

Yep, ivory hunter and rhino horn hunters don't waste anything.

[Kristie]

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Yeah, that's where the 'paranoid' part comes in.

You're not paranoid if they really are out to get you, which they are.

Guns should be registered, every gun.

Yes, tyrants and despots agree with you, it makes it ever so much easier to purge such undesirables after you've gone to their houses to gather up the current "banned weapon of the week." Just ask Hitler's victims how that worked out for them.

Certain guns should be banned.

Why? Because you're a 'fraidy-pants? Do you wet yourself at the mere thought that somebody might have one of those "evil" guns you want to ban? That's your problem, not mine.

No where in that did I say I want the government to take the legally obtained and legally registered weapons from responsible gun owners.

Ah, but the point is that people like you always do so eventually, which makes your protestations and denials empty rhetoric. Once people like you succeed in registering all firearms (er, only those owned by law-abiding citizens who are stupid enough to actually do so, and never, ever the criminals) the inevitable next step is gun bans and confiscations. That's how it always happens. The only thing that protects our 2nd Amendment rights is our right to complete anonymity as to who owns guns and what kind or how many they own. This ambiguity prevents the government from successfully stripping the populace of its arms, which is exactly what you, and your ilk, ACTUALLY want. You're just dissembling because you know you can't have it all at once, so you and your ilk will be satisfied to take it one slow step at a time with an eye on the eventual prize of complete gun bans and total confiscation.

Well, let me tell you little lady, that's not going to happen, no matter what laws Congress passes to try to facilitate it, because tens of millions of gun owners will simply refuse to comply with such laws, and there aren't enough federal marshals in the US to arrest and try all of us, not that they would be able to do so in the first place.

Oh my god, I swear you're getting more paranoid and crazy every day....

Here's the thing, we don't trust you anti gunners--at all--you lie and you are irrational and you are ignorant, and you react and decide based on emotion and you are tresspassers with a complete incapcity for appreciating the consequences of what you would expect.

Now, I want to know, from a person who knows squat all about firearms, which guns should be banned and why?
I want rational, knowledegable, suppoiortable reasons.

The only reply I have is that I am not an 'anti gunner' and I have yet to tell a lie in this thread.

[Gallstones]

The squirrel's dependents might disagree.

Actually, no .. they'll prolly just disagree.

This is either a joke or evidence of anthropomorphization.

You don't think they'll prolly just disagree?

Die is what every living thing will do.

Why the facepalm .. Do you think you're telling me something I don't know.

The strikeout message is stupid. What is your point in doing it, to tell me something I don't know?

Do you have any evidence that a squirrel has loved ones who will miss it when it dies?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Chalk it up to hyper-defensiveness, Kristie.

[charlou]

Gallstones, do you think everyone who kills things for sport eats the non-trophy bits?

It doesn't matter what the person who pulls the trigger takes from it. The meat will be eaten by someone, it isn't wasted.

ahhh .. I'll grant you it'll be consumed by someone, or something, eventually, as is natural when something dies ... And how very magnanimous of the person with the trigger finger.

[charlou]

You don't think they'll prolly just disagree?

Die is what every living thing will do.

Why the facepalm .. Do you think you're telling me something I don't know.

The strikeout message is stupid. What is your point in doing it, to tell me something I don't know?

Do you have any evidence that a squirrel has loved ones who will miss it when it dies?

No, I didn't mention love.

[Gallstones]

[
Yeah, that's where the 'paranoid' part comes in.

You're not paranoid if they really are out to get you, which they are.

Guns should be registered, every gun.

Yes, tyrants and despots agree with you, it makes it ever so much easier to purge such undesirables after you've gone to their houses to gather up the current "banned weapon of the week." Just ask Hitler's victims how that worked out for them.

Certain guns should be banned.

Why? Because you're a 'fraidy-pants? Do you wet yourself at the mere thought that somebody might have one of those "evil" guns you want to ban? That's your problem, not mine.

No where in that did I say I want the government to take the legally obtained and legally registered weapons from responsible gun owners.

Ah, but the point is that people like you always do so eventually, which makes your protestations and denials empty rhetoric. Once people like you succeed in registering all firearms (er, only those owned by law-abiding citizens who are stupid enough to actually do so, and never, ever the criminals) the inevitable next step is gun bans and confiscations. That's how it always happens. The only thing that protects our 2nd Amendment rights is our right to complete anonymity as to who owns guns and what kind or how many they own. This ambiguity prevents the government from successfully stripping the populace of its arms, which is exactly what you, and your ilk, ACTUALLY want. You're just dissembling because you know you can't have it all at once, so you and your ilk will be satisfied to take it one slow step at a time with an eye on the eventual prize of complete gun bans and total confiscation.

Well, let me tell you little lady, that's not going to happen, no matter what laws Congress passes to try to facilitate it, because tens of millions of gun owners will simply refuse to comply with such laws, and there aren't enough federal marshals in the US to arrest and try all of us, not that they would be able to do so in the first place.

Oh my god, I swear you're getting more paranoid and crazy every day....

Here's the thing, we don't trust you anti gunners--at all--you lie and you are irrational and you are ignorant, and you react and decide based on emotion and you are tresspassers with a complete incapcity for appreciating the consequences of what you would expect.

Now, I want to know, from a person who knows squat all about firearms, which guns should be banned and why?
I want rational, knowledegable, suppoiortable reasons.

The only reply I have is that I am not an 'anti gunner' and I have yet to tell a lie in this thread.

You have said some guns should be banned. As soon as you say that you make statments like "I don't want to take your guns." a lie. Your contradiction is evidence that you don't have the capacity to see the consequences of what you ask.

Again, which guns do you think should be banned?
What rational, knowledgable reasons do you have to support a ban on any particular firearm?