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[laklak]

[LucidFlight]

John Steed famously never carried a gun. An umbrella was deemed more gentlemanly.

His choice to make. Not his authority to impose on anyone else however. I'd use an umbrella or a cane if necessary, but I'd still carry a gun because sometimes bringing an umbrella to a gun fight is a bad idea.

What if it's a bullet-proof umbrella?

[Blind groper]

Obviously you're lying because it didn't concern you enough for you to cancel your visit to the United States.
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Wrong!

One of the differences between you and I, Seth, is that I am rational enough to figure the odds. I spent less than 2 weeks in the USA. What are the odds of getting shot?

100,000 people each year (excluding suicides) receive a bullet through some part of their anatomy in the USA. In any one year, for the average American, the odds are 4000 to 1 against. For a two week period, the odds are 100,000 to 1 against.

I figured those odds were adequate to justify a brief visit.

[Hermit]

We should recommend this to the NRA association.

The "NRA association?"

Really?

Did you know that "NRA" stands for "National Rifle Association?" I don't think there is a National Rifle Association Association, but you're welcome to recommend this to them...if you can find them.

Waiting for Seth to notice the mention of "PIN number" in the title of the tread and "ATM machine" in the third post.

[Seth]

John Steed famously never carried a gun. An umbrella was deemed more gentlemanly.

His choice to make. Not his authority to impose on anyone else however. I'd use an umbrella or a cane if necessary, but I'd still carry a gun because sometimes bringing an umbrella to a gun fight is a bad idea.

What if it's a bullet-proof umbrella?

Then it's a most excellent idea

[Seth]

Obviously you're lying because it didn't concern you enough for you to cancel your visit to the United States.
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Wrong!

One of the differences between you and I, Seth, is that I am rational enough to figure the odds. I spent less than 2 weeks in the USA. What are the odds of getting shot?

Pert near zero, which are the same odds the vast majority of the population faces even though they live their whole lifetimes here.

100,000 people each year (excluding suicides) receive a bullet through some part of their anatomy in the USA. In any one year, for the average American, the odds are 4000 to 1 against. For a two week period, the odds are 100,000 to 1 against.

I figured those odds were adequate to justify a brief visit.

Once again you demonstrate your gross ignorance of statistics.

It's not your odds of getting shot that are important to the concealed carry issue because while the odds that any particular randomly chosen person will get shot on any given day are very small, the odds that a person being attacked by someone determined to do them harm are, always, one-hundred percent in favor of their victimization and so the pertinent statistic is whether or not they are armed and trained for self defense. Those who are not so trained and equipped have a statistical likelihood of using force to prevent or deter being victimized that closely approaches zero, whereas those who are armed and trained have much better odds.

The question has always been not "Am I statistically likely to be attacked today?", it's "If I am attacked today, what tools and knowledge do I have with me that will improve my chances of surviving such an attack with minimal harm?"

[Blind groper]

Seth

You really should learn to appreciate numbers. You would be much safer unarmed in my country than armed to the teeth in the USA. You cannot be shot when people do not have guns (New Zealand), while you can readily be shot when guns are widely available (USA). Having guns yourself will not prevent you getting shot.

In the USA, the average American lives 79 years. In that 79 years, there is a statistical risk of getting shot of 1 in 50. That is not an acceptable risk. It is way too high.

[rainbow]

Who, exactly, confiscated your umbrella?

NYPD.
4th July celebration event, East River

[Rum]

Only in America, Gun = good, Umbrella = very bad.

[Hermit]

Fucking Marxist cops, no doubt. The commies have infiltrated everything. Thanks, Leon Obama.

[mistermack]

Only in America, Gun = good, Umbrella = very bad.

Where does it say in the constitution that Americans have the right to bear umbrellas?

You need to learn to think things through.

[Rum]

Rain is, after all I suppose, a collective experience and I know I have shared an umbrella. Therefore communisticist!

[laklak]

If Allah didn't want you to get wet he wouldn't have invented rain, therefore umbrellas are haram.

[Blind groper]

Rain is the curse of the infidel. Muslims to a large extent live in the arid Middle East. Allah arranged for HIS followers to stay dry.

Recently, I was on the Nile, and obviously Allah was angry at having a terrible unbeliever (me) in HIS holy place, since he sent a terrible rain storm. First time in 50 years, just when I arrived. QED!

[NineBerry]

PINs are so ancient technology. Have guns coupled with smartphones. You first need to unlock your gun with your phone to be able to fire it. Unlocking the gun would automatically send a message with your name, location and a snap shot from the phone camera to the local police.

The app to use could be called "Amendment 2.0 - For a well regulated Mobile - itia"