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Re: Stand Your Ground claimed as defense by intruder

Post by Seth » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:43 am

Animavore wrote:
Seth wrote: And they are cowards when it comes to intervening in crime, as witnessed by the idle gawkers who stood by and watched a soldier have his head chopped off while shooting phone video.
Tell me again how American citizens intervened in the Virginia Tech massacre?
Several, including a professor who gave his life for his students by blocking the door to the classroom with his body, which caused him to get shot and killed through the door.

And guess what a large number of people in that building said after they escaped..."I wish somebody else in the room had a gun."

No law-abiding person did have a gun because Virginia bans concealed carry on campus. And the killer KNEW IT.

Also, this video proves you wrong.
Well bravo for her, one hero amongst a nation of cowards (including, so it seems, it's robbers). Pity she didn't have a gun rather than a handbag, she could have eliminated a couple of robbers forever.
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Re: Stand Your Ground claimed as defense by intruder

Post by Animavore » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:40 am

Seth wrote: Several, including a professor who gave his life for his students by blocking the door to the classroom with his body, which caused him to get shot and killed through the door.
And, of course, people from other nations are incapable of such heroism :doh:
Seth wrote: Well bravo for her, one hero amongst a nation of cowards (including, so it seems, it's robbers). Pity she didn't have a gun rather than a handbag, she could have eliminated a couple of robbers forever.
I've as much reason, perhaps even more, to hate the English as anyone else, but cowards they are not. Or, at least, no more than any nation.

You're clutching straws here.
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Post by mistermack » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:00 am

Seth has put it on record that he would scream like a little girl, if he was threatened.

When it comes to cowardice, he knows his stuff.
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Post by Seth » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:17 pm

mistermack wrote:Seth has put it on record that he would scream like a little girl, if he was threatened.

When it comes to cowardice, he knows his stuff.
Screaming like a little girl is not cowardice, it's tactical distraction and attention-seeking. High frequency sounds are more compelling than low frequency ones in such situations, and doing it directly in the ear of an attacker can help befuddle them by causing extreme pain that might cause them to hesitate long enough for me to gain the advantage and end the attack.

As I said, go ask the Marines about the "war face" and why they cultivate it.
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Re: Stand Your Ground claimed as defense by intruder

Post by Seth » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:18 pm

Animavore wrote:
Seth wrote: Several, including a professor who gave his life for his students by blocking the door to the classroom with his body, which caused him to get shot and killed through the door.
And, of course, people from other nations are incapable of such heroism :doh:
Didn't say that. Just the UK, by and large.
Seth wrote: Well bravo for her, one hero amongst a nation of cowards (including, so it seems, it's robbers). Pity she didn't have a gun rather than a handbag, she could have eliminated a couple of robbers forever.
I've as much reason, perhaps even more, to hate the English as anyone else, but cowards they are not. Or, at least, no more than any nation.

You're clutching straws here.
Meh. Bunch pussies who are scared of their own shadows, and their fellow countrymen.
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Post by Audley Strange » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:33 am

Your nation is full of people are so terrified of their neighbours, police, government, gangs, terrorist, blacks, hispanics, jews, teachers Marxists and science that many of them can only walk out of the fucking house armed to the teeth. You imprison more citizens than any other nation on earth and you spend more on *ahem* "Defence" than most of the globe combined. We're the cowards because we don't need guns to feel safe?

I'll give that one a C- Seth, you can do much better.
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Post by Daedalus » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:43 am

Audley Strange wrote:Your nation is full of people are so terrified of their neighbours, police, government, gangs, terrorist, blacks, hispanics, jews, teachers Marxists and science that many of them can only walk out of the fucking house armed to the teeth. You imprison more citizens than any other nation on earth and you spend more on *ahem* "Defence" than most of the globe combined. We're the cowards because we don't need guns to feel safe?

I'll give that one a C- Seth, you can do much better.
That's really the problem, and why I told Seth elsewhere that he was the very image of that problem with his babbling about Collectivism and Marxism. The issue is not guns, the issue is people like Seth who are intellectually stunted and emotionally unstable.

I'm all for guns, but I'm rabidly against fanatics with guns.
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Post by Seth » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:59 am

Audley Strange wrote:Your nation is full of people are so terrified of their neighbours, police, government, gangs, terrorist, blacks, hispanics, jews, teachers Marxists and science that many of them can only walk out of the fucking house armed to the teeth. You imprison more citizens than any other nation on earth and you spend more on *ahem* "Defence" than most of the globe combined. We're the cowards because we don't need guns to feel safe?
Problem is you're NOT safe. And our defense spending kept your ass from having to speak German or Russian, so yeah, it's you.
I'll give that one a C- Seth, you can do much better.
Sure I can, but why bother?
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Post by FBM » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:05 am

Just a quick note: If the discussion turns into one predominantly about guns, we'll have to move the thread to the Guns sub-forum.
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Post by Seth » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:07 am

Daedalus wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Your nation is full of people are so terrified of their neighbours, police, government, gangs, terrorist, blacks, hispanics, jews, teachers Marxists and science that many of them can only walk out of the fucking house armed to the teeth. You imprison more citizens than any other nation on earth and you spend more on *ahem* "Defence" than most of the globe combined. We're the cowards because we don't need guns to feel safe?

I'll give that one a C- Seth, you can do much better.
That's really the problem, and why I told Seth elsewhere that he was the very image of that problem with his babbling about Collectivism and Marxism. The issue is not guns, the issue is people like Seth who are intellectually stunted and emotionally unstable.
Fuck people like you who are bereft of intellect and are emotionally crippled.

As I said, the best you've got is ad hom, which means you've got nothing. :bored:
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Re: Stand Your Ground claimed as defense by intruder

Post by Daedalus » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:22 am

Seth wrote:
Daedalus wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Your nation is full of people are so terrified of their neighbours, police, government, gangs, terrorist, blacks, hispanics, jews, teachers Marxists and science that many of them can only walk out of the fucking house armed to the teeth. You imprison more citizens than any other nation on earth and you spend more on *ahem* "Defence" than most of the globe combined. We're the cowards because we don't need guns to feel safe?

I'll give that one a C- Seth, you can do much better.
That's really the problem, and why I told Seth elsewhere that he was the very image of that problem with his babbling about Collectivism and Marxism. The issue is not guns, the issue is people like Seth who are intellectually stunted and emotionally unstable.
Fuck people like you who are bereft of intellect and are emotionally crippled.

As I said, the best you've got is ad hom, which means you've got nothing. :bored:
Easy there cowgirl, it's not ad hominem, it's an accurate observation about the nature of people who are a problem in society; the walking, talking, retarded little cassus belli. It could be worse though... you could be babbling about the shit on David Icke's site! :{D

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Re: Stand Your Ground claimed as defense by intruder

Post by Seth » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:27 am

Daedalus wrote:
Seth wrote:
Daedalus wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Your nation is full of people are so terrified of their neighbours, police, government, gangs, terrorist, blacks, hispanics, jews, teachers Marxists and science that many of them can only walk out of the fucking house armed to the teeth. You imprison more citizens than any other nation on earth and you spend more on *ahem* "Defence" than most of the globe combined. We're the cowards because we don't need guns to feel safe?

I'll give that one a C- Seth, you can do much better.
That's really the problem, and why I told Seth elsewhere that he was the very image of that problem with his babbling about Collectivism and Marxism. The issue is not guns, the issue is people like Seth who are intellectually stunted and emotionally unstable.
Fuck people like you who are bereft of intellect and are emotionally crippled.

As I said, the best you've got is ad hom, which means you've got nothing. :bored:
Easy there cowgirl, it's not ad hominem, it's an accurate observation about the nature of people who are a problem in society; the walking, talking, retarded little cassus belli. It could be worse though... you could be babbling about the shit on David Icke's site! :{D
No, it's classic ad hominem argumentation. the use of the words "like Seth" prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Guilty!
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Re: Stand Your Ground claimed as defense by intruder

Post by Daedalus » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:28 am

Seth wrote:
Daedalus wrote:
Seth wrote:
Daedalus wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Your nation is full of people are so terrified of their neighbours, police, government, gangs, terrorist, blacks, hispanics, jews, teachers Marxists and science that many of them can only walk out of the fucking house armed to the teeth. You imprison more citizens than any other nation on earth and you spend more on *ahem* "Defence" than most of the globe combined. We're the cowards because we don't need guns to feel safe?

I'll give that one a C- Seth, you can do much better.
That's really the problem, and why I told Seth elsewhere that he was the very image of that problem with his babbling about Collectivism and Marxism. The issue is not guns, the issue is people like Seth who are intellectually stunted and emotionally unstable.
Fuck people like you who are bereft of intellect and are emotionally crippled.

As I said, the best you've got is ad hom, which means you've got nothing. :bored:
Easy there cowgirl, it's not ad hominem, it's an accurate observation about the nature of people who are a problem in society; the walking, talking, retarded little cassus belli. It could be worse though... you could be babbling about the shit on David Icke's site! :{D
No, it's classic ad hominem argumentation. the use of the words "like Seth" prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Guilty!
Whatever keeps your psyche caulked I guess Seth. :roll:
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Re: Stand Your Ground claimed as defense by intruder

Post by Audley Strange » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:05 pm

Seth wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Your nation is full of people are so terrified of their neighbours, police, government, gangs, terrorist, blacks, hispanics, jews, teachers Marxists and science that many of them can only walk out of the fucking house armed to the teeth. You imprison more citizens than any other nation on earth and you spend more on *ahem* "Defence" than most of the globe combined. We're the cowards because we don't need guns to feel safe?
Problem is you're NOT safe. And our defense spending kept your ass from having to speak German or Russian, so yeah, it's you.
Yeah no one is safe and all the guns in the world won't change that. We just don't live in perpetual fear here. Nah, it's you. Good this innit? Also that arguement "if it wasn't for us yanks..." here's the thing, If either Russia or Germany had dominated Europe it would have most likely happened prior to my birth and so I wouldn't know any different, it's an irrelevant statement. So nah, it's you. Good this innit?

I'll give that one a C- Seth, you can do much better.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:27 pm

I moved this to the gun club. Cos it's... about guns. :biggrin:
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