Guns you own

[JimC]

The Ruger 10/22? They're fantastic pieces of work. I've got one back Stateside. If my buddy hasn't pawned it by now, that is.

That's the one!

[FBM]

The Ruger 10/22? They're fantastic pieces of work. I've got one back Stateside. If my buddy hasn't pawned it by now, that is.

That's the one!

I tried going the cheap route at first, but after killing a few tin cans with a 10/22, I never even considered another model.

[JimC]

The Ruger 10/22? They're fantastic pieces of work. I've got one back Stateside. If my buddy hasn't pawned it by now, that is.

That's the one!

I tried going the cheap route at first, but after killing a few tin cans with a 10/22, I never even considered another model.

I got mine for 50 bucks second-hand from a mate!

[Jason]

Interesting magazine design. I've never paid the 10/22 any attention before, but it looks like a detachable version of the old Savage internal rotary magazine. My uncle had one in his Savage 99C.

[JimC]

Interesting magazine design. I've never paid the 10/22 any attention before, but it looks like a detachable version of the old Savage internal rotary magazine. My uncle had one in his Savage 99C.

It was easy to load, compact (it disappeared inside), and it never, ever jammed...

[Collector1337]

No, I do not currently own any semi-automatic rifles or handguns. Although my neighbour is looking to sell his .44 mag revolver.

Why not? 99% of my guns are semi-auto.

Mostly because I'm a hunter and I kill first shot or not at all, but also because my 1100 with 3" 12 guage 00 shot will make a fine red mist of anyone who tries anything untoward.

So, just more of a hunter then? Not into target shooting or any kind of shooting just for fun?

[Jason]

I enjoy target shooting and plinking. That's what my .22WMR is for. Some heroes claim they can take down game as large as moose with that cartridge, but I'm sure they're full of shit. .308 rounds are a bit expensive for plinking (Hornady match-grade is about $30 a box or $1.50 a cartridge) and I don't skeet shoot with my shotgun.

How does enjoying target shooting mean I should have a semi-auto anyway?

[Jason]

Can't edit.. of course my 1100 is a semi-auto. In case you're not familiar with that uber popular shotgun model.

[Collector1337]

I enjoy target shooting and plinking. That's what my .22WMR is for. Some heroes claim they can take down game as large as moose with that cartridge, but I'm sure they're full of shit. .308 rounds are a bit expensive for plinking (Hornady match-grade is about $30 a box or $1.50 a cartridge) and I don't skeet shoot with my shotgun.

How does enjoying target shooting mean I should have a semi-auto anyway?

.22s are better than most people think but, it would require a headshot, which shouldn't be relied on. It's not supposed to be "ethical" to use too small of a caliber on game, since the goal is a 1 shot, instant death.

For your second question, it doesn't. It's up to the individual and what you like and enjoy shooting.

I'm not 60+ years old, so I enjoy what you would call "modern" firearms. I own a bolt action (Springfield 1903), and my 30-30 lever action (Marlin), which I like, but generally for me it's kind of like, "why am I using 150 year old weapons technology?" I like modern technology. I have an ipod, a smart phone, I build my own PCs, etc. I'm no stranger to technology or intimidated by it in any way. So, I just prefer "modern" firearms, just like I prefer using a computer I build myself with new parts about every 3-4 years. If there's better technology invented, why not use it? I could use candles and oil lamps, but electricity and light bulbs are sure as hell a lot more convenient.

I also, like you, don't like spending a lot on ammo, which is really hard to find right now. Which is why I don't usually shoot large rifle calibers like .308, 30-30, 30-06, etc. do to cost.

So, another reason to like a modern AR-15 with it's cheaper .223 ammo or military surplus 5.56mm. Same with pistols. Pistols are just cheaper to shoot because of ammo.

I like to shoot a lot of .22LR. It's the cheapest, most basic cartridge of all time. However, with the recent gun control efforts, finding a box of .22LR (or anything really), which usually come in 525 round packs for about $18, is now almost impossible to find. So before, you could shoot all day for $20 (instead of the ridiculous $25 for 20 rounds for a big rifle), but now, it's sold out everywhere you go.

[Jason]

The Winchester M88 is a unique beast. Put simply, it's the love child of bolt action married a lever action. It has a rotating bolt with three forward lugs (most, if not all, lever actions lock the bolt from the rear) so you get all the accuracy of a bolt action with the quickness of a lever. I don't like semi-autos because they're inherently less accurate than bolt actions.

Anyhow, my M88 is the oldest firearm I own and it's about 40. The 93G is about 10 years old and the 1100 about 30. They cast lead more accurately than any civilian semi auto, and are about on par with milspec semi auto marksman rifles (AR-15s are not marksman rifles, though they've made some designated marksman rifles from that platform that are ok - rechambered for .308). The M1903 in .30-06 can easily compete with a new Remington 700. Accuracy hasn't improved a whole lot in 'modern' firearms (excepting full autos) unless you move into the new cartridges such as the .338 Lapua (which is an outstanding cartridge and also the one used by the current record holder for longest kill iirc) which outperforms even the venerable .50BMG.

[Collector1337]

The Winchester M88 is a unique beast. Put simply, it's the love child of bolt action married a lever action. It has a rotating bolt with three forward lugs (most, if not all, lever actions lock the bolt from the rear) so you get all the accuracy of a bolt action with the quickness of a lever. I don't like semi-autos because they're inherently less accurate than bolt actions.

Anyhow, my M88 is the oldest firearm I own and it's about 40. The 93G is about 10 years old and the 1100 about 30. They cast lead more accurately than any civilian semi auto, and are about on par with milspec semi auto marksman rifles (AR-15s are not marksman rifles, though they've made some designated marksman rifles from that platform that are ok - rechambered for .308). The M1903 in .30-06 can easily compete with a new Remington 700. Accuracy hasn't improved a whole lot in 'modern' firearms (excepting full autos) unless you move into the new cartridges such as the .338 Lapua (which is an outstanding cartridge and also the one used by the current record holder for longest kill iirc) which outperforms even the venerable .50BMG.

I used to think that semi-autos were inherently less accurate than bolt-actions too, but... it just isn't true.

My two examples:

#1: The AR-15. The AR-15 is quite accurate. It's shot very often in 3 gun competition and in CMP competition from 200-600 yards. It's without a shadow of a doubt, very accurate, especially since it's so easy to shoot heavier grain bullets and the twist of the barrel if you need to shoot at long ranges. Really, it's a modular rifle that can be made to shoot at whatever distance/situation you need it to.

#2: Barret M82/M107 .50BMG, SEMI-AUTOMATIC. Good out to 1000 meters, easily. It holds numerous records for long sniper kills. (Although the longest might be the 1 and a half mile kill shot with a .338 Lapua Magnum like you said). But, the 2nd longest kill and vast majority of long kill records, is with a Barret.

1000 yard shot, with a Barret, off-handed, first try. (That's the standing position, for you noobs.)



Semi-autos being inherently less accurate than bolt actions is only true in theory. Practice... not so much.

"Taking the gun off safety increases velocity by 100%."

LOL.

[Jason]

Here's mah guns. Just snapped that pic. From top to bottom M88, 93G, 1100 with 30" mod choke (3" chamber).

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Not exactly 150 year old hardware, but not scary and black either. Although I have been considering a composite stock for the 1100. Some people put a Monte Carlo stock on the M88, but I don't like it. It kicks like a mule, but it shoulders fast.

Re: semi auto accuracy, I've had this argument before. Outside of bench shooting, they get the job done just as well mostly. They're not as accurate, but the high quality ones are as accurate as a person can shoot.

[Collector1337]

Here's mah guns. Just snapped that pic. From top to bottom M88, 93G, 1100 with 30" mod choke (3" chamber).

guns.jpg

Not exactly 150 year old hardware, but not scary and black either. Although I have been considering a composite stock for the 1100. Some people put a Monte Carlo stock on the M88, but I don't like it. It kicks like a mule, but it shoulders fast.

Re: semi auto accuracy, I've had this argument before. Outside of bench shooting, they get the job done just as well mostly. They're not as accurate, but the high quality ones are as accurate as a person can shoot.

Wait... what? They still put wood on guns?



Sorry. Had to do it.

as accurate as a person can shoot.

You said it.

[Jason]

Yep they still put wood on guns. Weatherby puts wood on all their top of the lne rifles. The only reason to switch to composite is to lighten your gun - which you may or may not want to do. Heavier rifles shoot easier but are a pita to haul all day.

[Jason]

So I showed you mine. Where are yours?