Cunt wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:57 pm
Back to the distortions of America's history, I think it's odd how I didn't know the bit I learned recently. It's the kind of fact I could have guessed, even should have, but it never really occurred to me this way.
If you consider the 'cost' of winning WWII in soldiers spent, Russia (among several others) spent MUCH more than the USA.
I simply never thought of it in terms of 'weight' of contribution. The US really didn't get involved. USSR lost 20 times the people.
I know they were 'spending' them differently, but that doesn't exactly take away from the horror for me.
I was listening to a podcast, where Michael Shermer said that he was in Russia, and they tought WW2 differently, teaching their kids that Russia eliminated the Nazi's from Europe and it's damned hard to argue otherwise.
Not only did the Russians bear the brunt of German aggression, they also inflicted by far the most damage to the Wehrmacht. Figures are bound to be somewhat rubbery. All sides always overstate the damage they inflict on the enemy and underdeclare the damage they suffered. Nevertheless, analyses of extant records have resulted in numbers that can be regarded as reasonably accurate with significant confidence. The best work appears to have been done in a statistical study by Rüdiger Overmans
, which began in 1992 and was published in 2000. In addition to the usual records, it benefited from tons of documents that were declassified in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The study confirmed, in short, that 80% of Germany's soldiers that were killed, went missing in action or became prisoners of war, did so while fighting Russian troops.
It is quite possibly true that without material supplies sent primarily by the USA, the USSR's forces may have been driven back east of the Ural mountains, which made such help of vital importance, but overall the Russian effort dwarfs that of its western allies in human as well as material terms. Germany had lost the war three months after Project Barbarossa began, before its advance was stopped in Stalingrad and outside Moscow. First it stuck in the autumn mud, then it started its retreat when faced with counter-attacks in the snow.