laklak wrote:Don't know about great, but it was pretty nice a couple of weeks ago, before all this fucking rain.
Sorry Lak, it's probably our fault.
We're in New Orleans celebrating our 25th anniversary and one of our voodoo friends said she pushed that tropical depression east so we'd have good weather.
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laklak wrote:Don't know about great, but it was pretty nice a couple of weeks ago, before all this fucking rain.
#MAPNA!
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It's always great on TV, from a few thousand miles away. The sun never sets on TV.
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Your question hinges on what I, or, more generally, every individual considering, perceive to be 'great' or 'greatness' (within the context of that which we can generally agree to be the criteria of 'greatness' in a nation). This isn't as trivial a problem as it may seem - as you may know people are hardly uniform in their beliefs and values.
Personally, I don't think America ever was 'great,' at least not in whole. You could make the argument that the Union stood for equality, human rights, and things of that sort in the American Civil War, but America has never really stopped being motivated by the fear and anger stemming from their racial prejudices; and that alone is enough to disqualify them from 'greatness' in my books. Now add homophobia (and phobias of other LGBTQ) and they're right out.
American history has been largely one of aggression, but they also had extended periods where an isolationist foreign policy, and public opinion, held sway. It took a lot of propaganda work to convince the American people to join the Great War, as WWI was known at the time, which delayed America's entrance into the war by about 2 years.
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton
