U.K. is not a synonym of England

[Rum]

"U.K. is not a synonym of England" and why not?

Who is your head of state? An English Monarch.
What language do you speak? English.
What is the capitol of this 'United Kingdom'? The capitol of England.
Where are your laws made? London, England.

Yeah. The U.K. is not a synonym for England in the same way a guy in a pink dress, tiara, silk wings and holding a wand is a princess - 'not a fairy'!

Actually a great many of Scotland's laws are now made in Scotland, however you have a good point. I for one am against the break up for a number of reasons, but near the top is the prospect of secessionist movements all over Europe which are going to come out of the woodwork and potentially cause havoc. More unity, not less must be the progressive way. Nationalism is really very parochial and short sighted in my view.

[laklak]

Nationalism is certainly a dangerous philosophy. Tribalism, however....

Would you let a Saxon cock crow out upon an Irish rock? Fly up and teach him manners.

[Rum]

Nationalism is certainly a dangerous philosophy. Tribalism, however....

Would you let a Saxon cock crow out upon an Irish rock? Fly up and teach him manners.

Tribalism is nationalism's younger and far nastier brother. Look at what is has done to West Africa. I for one don't care who's cock goes where as long as is isn't up my backside!

[SteveB]

The U.K. is not a synonym for England in the same way a guy in a pink dress, tiara, silk wings and holding a wand is a princess - 'not a fairy'!

You referring to FBM?

[Svartalf]

Nationalism is certainly a dangerous philosophy. Tribalism, however....

Would you let a Saxon cock crow out upon an Irish rock? Fly up and teach him manners.

Curse and Swear, Lord Kildare...
Tribalism is well on the come back...

[laklak]

I blame the Celts.

[Jason]

The U.K. is not a synonym for England in the same way a guy in a pink dress, tiara, silk wings and holding a wand is a princess - 'not a fairy'!

You referring to FBM?

No, not really.. it was just an image that popped into my head. Besides he wasn't wearing a pink dress, silk wings, and holding a wand.

[Jason]

I'm rather understanding of nationalism. A group of similarly minded people who want the right of self-determination as their needs and desires are not being fulfilled by the distant governance of unconcerned politicians.

In my opinion there's only two ways to go: the dissolution of all large scale government globally, or a system of regional autonomy under a global policy administration itself made up of representatives from each region. As both are extremely unlikely, I favour nationalism.

[SteveB]

The U.K. is not a synonym for England in the same way a guy in a pink dress, tiara, silk wings and holding a wand is a princess - 'not a fairy'!

You referring to FBM?

No, not really.. it was just an image that popped into my head. Besides he wasn't wearing a pink dress, silk wings, and holding a wand.

As far as we know...

[Svartalf]

I blame the Celts.

Thanks, but tribalism reared its head without them... European reaction to the moslem invasions, or what happened in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet block, especially in former Yugoslavia and around the Caucasus have nothing to do with the IRA and Scottish nationalism... or any Welsh movements nor the FLB.

[laklak]

That's it, I'm putting on some Planxty and sharpening my caladbolg and dirk.

[Jesus_of_Nazareth]

West Pakistan.........

[Red Celt]

Who is your head of state? An English Monarch.
What language do you speak? English.
What is the capitol of this 'United Kingdom'? The capitol of England.
Where are your laws made? London, England.

Yeah. The U.K. is not a synonym for England in the same way a guy in a pink dress, tiara, silk wings and holding a wand is a princess - 'not a fairy'!

It's interesting to see Elizabeth described as an English monarch, when Republicans have been calling her German for so many years. And, uhm, her mother was a Scot. The next monarch may well be half Greek. This is relevant how, exactly, when talking about national identity?

The language I speak is English, courtesy of the Angles. It is spoken across the U.K. for ease of communication, but the Angles in Scotland gave us our own language (called Scottish) which is very similar to the language that the Angles sourced in England. As we're next door neighbours, both versions of "English" borrowed and merged with each other... so it wasn't exactly a huge leap to switch to the Southern version at the time of the Enlightenment. After all, all of the surge of scientific and philosophical output from Scotland was easier spread to non-English parts of the world.

If that hadn't happened, this quote might not have taken place "We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation" - Voltaire.

The capital of the U.K. is, indeed, London.

Our laws are made in Scotland. The legal system wasn't divorced during the Act of Union.

There was a point (very well buried) in what you were trying to say, wasn't there?

[Svartalf]

That's it, I'm putting on some Planxty and sharpening my caladbolg and dirk.

If you find a stone hard enough to sharpen the Caledfwlch, you're good for a nobel prize, that thing was harder than diamond.

[Jason]

Who is your head of state? An English Monarch.
What language do you speak? English.
What is the capitol of this 'United Kingdom'? The capitol of England.
Where are your laws made? London, England.

Yeah. The U.K. is not a synonym for England in the same way a guy in a pink dress, tiara, silk wings and holding a wand is a princess - 'not a fairy'!

It's interesting to see Elizabeth described as an English monarch, when Republicans have been calling her German for so many years. And, uhm, her mother was a Scot. The next monarch may well be half Greek. This is relevant how, exactly, when talking about national identity?

She rules from the throne of England. Derp.

The language I speak is English, courtesy of the Angles. It is spoken across the U.K. for ease of communication, but the Angles in Scotland gave us our own language (called Scottish) which is very similar to the language that the Angles sourced in England. As we're next door neighbours, both versions of "English" borrowed and merged with each other... so it wasn't exactly a huge leap to switch to the Southern version at the time of the Enlightenment. After all, all of the surge of scientific and philosophical output from Scotland was easier spread to non-English parts of the world.

You speak English instead of Gaelic, as my Grandmother did, because you're a lickspittle for your English overlords.

The capital of the U.K. is, indeed, London.

London, ENGLAND.

Our laws are made in Scotland. The legal system wasn't divorced during the Act of Union.

Oh is that so? I suppose you make foreign policy and national trade agreements from there as well. No? Right. Pass another bylaw about cooking haggis after 8 PM in Glasgow and pretend you have self-determination.

There was a point (very well buried) in what you were trying to say, wasn't there?

That you are NOT a 'united kingdom', you are England. If Canada had its foreign policy made from Washington D.C., if Barack Obama was our head of state, if our Capitol was Washington D.C., I could not deny that we would be 'Americans'. My point? You're delusional.