Cavemen: what did they do in their spare time?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I've washed up using snow.

If that was your method of getting clean for most of your life, odds are you'd wind up looking dirty a lot.

Are you really claiming that it would be inaccurate to depict people who basically were survivalist campers their whole life as being a bit on the dirty side? Or, did they smell like roses?

They weren't lily white and shit, like you, but they didn't get any dirtier than they needed to be, and they got clean whenever they could. There's a simple reason for that. Scent.

[Jesus_of_Nazareth]

I suspect Seth would regard a tribe working together to bring an Elk back to the cave as somewhat too socialist for his tastes.

[Audley Strange]

Yeah those cavemen they depict are action cavemen, metropolitan cavemen were much more about the grooming and hair product.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yeah those cavemen they depict are action cavemen, metropolitan cavemen were much more about the grooming and hair product.

Metrocavical?

[Audley Strange]

Yeah those cavemen they depict are action cavemen, metropolitan cavemen were much more about the grooming and hair product.

Metrocavical?

Techincally, I suppose. Usually we call them neanderthal, the common supposition that we wiped them out is in error. They died out, starved, looking fantastic in their size zero loincloths but unable to hunt even an apple.

[Coito ergo sum]

I've washed up using snow.

If that was your method of getting clean for most of your life, odds are you'd wind up looking dirty a lot.

Are you really claiming that it would be inaccurate to depict people who basically were survivalist campers their whole life as being a bit on the dirty side? Or, did they smell like roses?

They weren't lily white and shit, like you, but they didn't get any dirtier than they needed to be, and they got clean whenever they could. There's a simple reason for that. Scent.

But, your question was why they were depicted as being dirty. That doesn't mean they're dirtier than they have to be, just that they've dirt on them. It doesn't seem all that odd to depict them with some dirt on them. On a given day they're outdoors, hunting, working, foraging, digging -- stuff that gets you dirty. My complexion and/or level of dirtiness really doesn't have much to do with it.

[Coito ergo sum]

Yeah those cavemen they depict are action cavemen, metropolitan cavemen were much more about the grooming and hair product.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I've washed up using snow.

If that was your method of getting clean for most of your life, odds are you'd wind up looking dirty a lot.

Are you really claiming that it would be inaccurate to depict people who basically were survivalist campers their whole life as being a bit on the dirty side? Or, did they smell like roses?

They weren't lily white and shit, like you, but they didn't get any dirtier than they needed to be, and they got clean whenever they could. There's a simple reason for that. Scent.

But, your question was why they were depicted as being dirty. That doesn't mean they're dirtier than they have to be, just that they've dirt on them. It doesn't seem all that odd to depict them with some dirt on them. On a given day they're outdoors, hunting, working, foraging, digging -- stuff that gets you dirty. My complexion and/or level of dirtiness really doesn't have much to do with it.

Really? That video I posted shows a person with salt caked on them. That will cause sores very quickly. A stupid caveperson would leave it there. And Darwin their self right out of the gene pool.

[Seth]

I suspect Seth would regard a tribe working together to bring an Elk back to the cave as somewhat too socialist for his tastes.

Not unless they had taken slaves and forced them to do the carrying. Voluntary cooperation is what Libertarianism is all about. I imagine that if a caveman didn't feel like helping with the hunt or the carrying he'd be left alone, but wouldn't get a share of the meat. Likewise, if a caveman wanted to take off and live on his own, or with another group, the tribe wouldn't force him to stay just to keep his work ability in the tribe.

Native Americans, specifically the Lakota, were quite Libertarian in their cultural practices. If the tribe wanted to go to war, and you didn't want to go with them, you didn't have to do so, and the tribe respected your right to make that decision for yourself.

[Pensioner]

I suspect Seth would regard a tribe working together to bring an Elk back to the cave as somewhat too socialist for his tastes.

Not unless they had taken slaves and forced them to do the carrying. Voluntary cooperation is what Libertarianism is all about. I imagine that if a caveman didn't feel like helping with the hunt or the carrying he'd be left alone, but wouldn't get a share of the meat. Likewise, if a caveman wanted to take off and live on his own, or with another group, the tribe wouldn't force him to stay just to keep his work ability in the tribe.

Native Americans, specifically the Lakota, were quite Libertarian in their cultural practices. If the tribe wanted to go to war, and you didn't want to go with them, you didn't have to do so, and the tribe respected your right to make that decision for yourself.

Made up shit.

[Feck]

Why do you think 'cavemen' had so much spare time ?

[Pappa]

I suspect Seth would regard a tribe working together to bring an Elk back to the cave as somewhat too socialist for his tastes.

Not unless they had taken slaves and forced them to do the carrying. Voluntary cooperation is what Libertarianism is all about. I imagine that if a caveman didn't feel like helping with the hunt or the carrying he'd be left alone, but wouldn't get a share of the meat. Likewise, if a caveman wanted to take off and live on his own, or with another group, the tribe wouldn't force him to stay just to keep his work ability in the tribe.

Native Americans, specifically the Lakota, were quite Libertarian in their cultural practices. If the tribe wanted to go to war, and you didn't want to go with them, you didn't have to do so, and the tribe respected your right to make that decision for yourself.

The "vote with your feet" principle is common to hunter-gatherer societies. Nobody in the group wields enough power or controls enough resources to force a person to stay.

[Blind groper]

The "vote with your feet" principle is common to hunter-gatherer societies. Nobody in the group wields enough power or controls enough resources to force a person to stay.

Social ties are very strong, though. Humans are gregarious animals, and social connections are vital. It would be a very rare tribesman willing to walk away. Especially since the next tribe is likely to be hostile and regard the stranger as dinner.

[Svartalf]

Why do they always show cavepersons so dirty?

Lack of running water and soap?

Soap = animal fat + vegetable ash... easy to obtain after mastery of fire.

[Blind groper]

Soap = animal fat + vegetable ash... easy to obtain after mastery of fire.

History would not agree with you there.
For example : the old time Romans did not have soap, in spite of having fire and a lot of very sophisticated stuff. They used to use human urine to wash clothes with (urine contains ammonia, which has a cleaning action).