U.K. is not a synonym of England

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by Svartalf » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:09 am

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by ronmcd » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:04 pm

PordFrefect wrote:I'm unsatisfied with the pat answer of why the 'UK' is singular when it is composed of at least two kingdoms. No matter that the same monarch sits on both thrones.
Because it is a singular Kingdom? Similarly, a car is singular, even though it is composed of multiple components. But it would have been quite reasonable to have called the UK "The United Kingdoms of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", I suppose, but I think that sounds more like the United States, each state with it's own government. That wasn't the case. Well, until recently, post devolution.

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by Jason » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:17 am

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Northern Ireland is a Kingdom? Is Animavore king?

I was referring to Scotland/England.

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by JimC » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:40 am

PordFrefect wrote:Image
Northern Ireland is a Kingdom? Is Animavore king?

I was referring to Scotland/England.
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Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:59 am

The last King of Scotland was............Idi Amin.

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by ronmcd » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:12 am

PordFrefect wrote:Image
Northern Ireland is a Kingdom? Is Animavore king?

I was referring to Scotland/England.
I don't disagree. I wasnt suggesting the "united kingdoms" were GB and NI, the name refers to the United Kingdoms of GB (two kingdoms) ... AND NI (although not a Kingdom).

So it's correct to call it the United Kindom (singular), and then identify the constituent parts of GB and NI.

Not sure the missing/additional (s) really matters though, or changes the meaning?

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Post by ronmcd » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:15 am

Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:The last King of Scotland was............Idi Amin.

FACT.
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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:31 pm

It should probably be the United Kingsdom, not Kingdoms. :leave:

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by Tyrannical » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:15 pm

Just to clear things up, geographically the name of the main island without the surrounding islands is called Great Britain?
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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by Jason » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:54 pm

Does Ireland count as a 'surrounding island'?

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by devogue » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:17 pm

Does Northern Ireland count as a surrounding kingdom geographically but not politically?

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by ronmcd » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:18 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Just to clear things up, geographically the name of the main island without the surrounding islands is called Great Britain?
I think Great Britain is an island, the name doesn't refer to the surrounding islands which are commonly included in the political understanding of GB as everything in UK except NI.

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by ronmcd » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:23 pm

devogue wrote:Does Northern Ireland count as a surrounding kingdom geographically but not politically?

:shitstir:

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Is Northern Ireland technically an enclave? :dunno: I'm not sure it fits any definition! Other than ... tricky. And complicated.

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by Jason » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:29 pm

So what are the British Isles? Does it include Ireland and the channel islands? What about the Falklands?

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Re: U.K. is not a synonym of England

Post by Rum » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:37 pm

This thread has become silly. :hehe:

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