The Naval War of 1812, A Documentary History

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And you stopped shanghaiing our sailors.

Because we won the big war in Europe and didn't need them ...As you well know !

[Clinton Huxley]

this one could run and run....rather like the American defenders of Washington...

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Yep but we shouldn't mock I mean they do win some big wars they kicked Ass in Grenada I know they made a film so it must be true

[Clinton Huxley]

If CES posts in this thread, it's going to break the forum....

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And you stopped shanghaiing our sailors.

Because we won the big war in Europe and didn't need them ...As you well know !

And why were you doing it in the first place?

[Coito ergo sum]

Yes, yes, yes, the United States has never actually won a battle, much less a war. All rumors to the contrary is mere propaganda. The Brits, of course, have never lost anything, which is why they still have their Empire.

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And you stopped shanghaiing our sailors.

Because we won the big war in Europe and didn't need them ...As you well know !

And why were you doing it in the first place?

Because we could! call it manifest destiny

[Clinton Huxley]

Yes, yes, yes, the United States has never actually won a battle, much less a war. All rumors to the contrary is mere propaganda. The Brits, of course, have never lost anything, which is why they still have their Empire.

Come on, CES! Was expecting 5 pages of excrutiatingly detailed analysis!

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Freedom freedom now let's invade Canada oops Fail maybe we could take an appropriate size enemy like the Philipines .

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Freedom freedom now let's invade Canada oops Fail maybe we could take an appropriate size enemy like the Philipines .

And how does England respond to threats on its border, say when the Bluebonnets come over the border?

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Freedom freedom now let's invade Canada oops Fail maybe we could take an appropriate size enemy like the Philipines .

And how does England respond to threats on its border, say when the Bluebonnets come over the border?

Why we dress up as wimmin and run back to france .... oh no hang on .....

[Coito ergo sum]

Yes, yes, yes, the United States has never actually won a battle, much less a war. All rumors to the contrary is mere propaganda. The Brits, of course, have never lost anything, which is why they still have their Empire.

Come on, CES! Was expecting 5 pages of excrutiatingly detailed analysis!

Who would it convince? The guy who thinks that the only reason the Brits lost anything was that they were too busy with the really important stuff to care? The guy who thinks Canada was "independent" in 1812? The guy who thinks the War of 1812 was instigated by the American invasion of Canada, and not British impressment, the Chesapeake incident and the British attempt to cripple American trade?

Everyone has their own "facts" about the War of 1812, apparently. The Canadians brag endlessly about how they, the Canadians, burned down the White House, ignoring the British naval landing and the British troops that lit the fires.....

Let's just all agree that all of American history is fake, except the part about it taking everybody else's land. And of course, despite having had the largest colonial empire in the world, the British were always kind and benevolent and only conquered those who really wanted to be conquered, and they've never lost a battle, much less a war.

[Coito ergo sum]

Freedom freedom now let's invade Canada oops Fail maybe we could take an appropriate size enemy like the Philipines .

Canada at the time was not a country - it was a British colony, and British forces were not only stationed there, but channeling arms to Tecumseh and the Indian federation. The purpose of British arming of the Indian tribes was to incite them to war against the Americans. The invasion of Canada, in short, was to cut that off, and hopefully in the process gain some British territory. The war had been declared against Britain, however, before the Americans attacked British forces stationed in Canada.

[Coito ergo sum]

And you stopped shanghaiing our sailors.

Because we won the big war in Europe and didn't need them ...As you well know !

And why were you doing it in the first place?

Because we could! call it manifest destiny

I've always found it humorous when Brits scoff at "manifest destiny" when they made precisely the same westward advance to the Pacific and in fact took more acreage of land in the process than the Americans did. Seems a bit ironic that a country that held more people under colonial subjugation than other other would feel itself in any position to moralize, expressly or impliedly, on this topic. One would think a concise apology to the world would be in order instead.