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by IIzO
Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:40 pm
Forum: Atheism & Religion
Topic: My Take On Jesus
Replies: 226
Views: 27527

Re: My Take On Jesus

What is a historical Jesus as opposed to a "supernatural" one ?Oh you mean that if we take the story as real beforehand everything inside the story would be natural....oh yeah of course ,but so are every single myth/lies around , myth are originaly taken seriously....before the lack of evidence jus...
by IIzO
Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:53 am
Forum: Atheism & Religion
Topic: My Take On Jesus
Replies: 226
Views: 27527

Re: My Take On Jesus

If bruce's faith on God and jesus are "arational" it pretty much mean that there are no reasons for them other than "having senses that detect the existance of Gods ,the veracity of the gospels" etc etc....unfortunately those fall into the domain of rationality. Edit: Arational ,concerns only "expe...
by IIzO
Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:57 pm
Forum: Atheism & Religion
Topic: My Take On Jesus
Replies: 226
Views: 27527

Re: My Take On Jesus

If bruce's faith on God and jesus are "arational" it pretty much mean that there are no reasons for them other than "having senses that detect the existance of Gods ,the veracity of the gospels" etc etc....unfortunately those fall into the domain of rationality. Edit: Arational ,concerns only "exper...
by IIzO
Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:47 pm
Forum: Atheism & Religion
Topic: Priceless Quotes Directed At You By Theists...
Replies: 56
Views: 52093

Re: Priceless Quotes Directed At You By Theists...

The most infuriating , and actually common thing a theist would direct at me is while i ask them to explain something they say "God made it so". ....when i ask them how they know that......."You don't have to believe me , buts thats what i believe"...YEAH RIGHT.....THANK YOU . :banghead: :banghead: ...
by IIzO
Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:57 pm
Forum: Atheism & Religion
Topic: My Take On Jesus
Replies: 226
Views: 27527

Re: My Take On Jesus

If I associate with Christians, they confirm my experiences as valid manifestations of the presence of God. And....what is the logic that leads to this conclusion ? But like I said, that was only chapter one. The constant over four decades has been the inner experience of the presence of Jesus. Wel...
by IIzO
Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:28 pm
Forum: General Serious Discussion & Philosophy
Topic: Thoughts on race/racism
Replies: 108
Views: 15152

Re: Thoughts on race/racism

I'm curious , could someone try and give a complete list of so called "races" in a biological context ? As far as i am concerned all that bullshit about "race" actually is gross ethnic generalisations upon visible or cultural differences.Humans , whatever colors morphology blood type , etc should be...
by IIzO
Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:27 am
Forum: Atheism & Religion
Topic: My Take On Jesus
Replies: 226
Views: 27527

Re: My Take On Jesus

I have no quarrel with this. My personal experiences convince me - I do not expect them to convince you. If the conclusion of this debate is that you think my faith is valid for me but not for you, I could ask for nothing more. Seriously anything can be taken on faith , faith requires no consistenc...
by IIzO
Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:22 am
Forum: Atheism & Religion
Topic: My Take On Jesus
Replies: 226
Views: 27527

Re: My Take On Jesus

Fine , Bruce's arationality , is just blind faith.Its not challenged by criticism .Its not testable , the only "revelations" made seems to only concern unverifiable events , or seem to concern only past events....without the possibility to check out if the "revelation" is prior to the event. Faith d...
by IIzO
Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:37 pm
Forum: Atheism & Religion
Topic: My Take On Jesus
Replies: 226
Views: 27527

Re: My Take On Jesus

Hi o/ Several posts questioned my "arational" category, and one said that if something is not rational then it is irrational by definition. This is a false dichotomy, based on faulty binary reasoning. It's like saying if something is not black, it's white. And this is a false analogy.Colors have not...
by IIzO
Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:46 am
Forum: Atheism & Religion
Topic: Christianity - A respectful dialogue
Replies: 202
Views: 20972

Re: Christianity - A respectful dialogue

"sensus divinitatis"? Assuming that there is such a thing ,how does it works biologically? What are this "sense" modalities , is it either "on" and "off" , does it come in a spectrum ? How do you describe it.Common senses are faillible , is this sens faillible too? How does this sense can relate to ...